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From: Gary S Gevisser <gary@2facetruth.com>

Date: February 21, 2012 5:15:47 PM PST
To: Jon Nadler <JNadler@Kitco.com>
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Subject: Can I count on your silence? – Re: US Gold


Jon, I stopped reading after, “Yes, I do not. I thought I was being very clear.”

It took you close to an hour to respond, and perhaps it is just your age, poor diet that leads to lack of exercise?

Let’s just assume you were busy but not busy to the point that you thought you could deflect a most important and legitimate question.

If you went into a pawn shop and gave them your gold watch because you needed to make a utility bill payment or they were going to shut off your water and electricity and after you had earned enough to pay back the loan with interest and now wanted your gold watch back which was worth a whole lot more than the monies you borrowed and the owner of the pawn shop said “no, I’ve decided to keep the gold because I plan in the next moment to turn on the money printing presses at a speed no one can possibly keep up with” would you feel that you have been cheated?

What would you do next?

What are you doing right now?

Can you come up with a better example because I am under a great deal of pressure with sunset arriving to take Mango who has been awfully patient all afternoon down to the beach to tackle the waves should none of his dog friends show up.

I had a feeling you might need considerable time to formulate that, “Yes, I do not. I thought I was being very clear” and then go to your standardized responses; did you do any cut and paste?

Possibly closer to several lifetimes to realize how little to nothing you know about how the real world of military might rules, where money is not a factor, just the raw war materials that are bartered back and forth amongst the mineral monopolists headed by the German-South African Oppenheimer family with whom I am intimately familiar, as they keep it all much more simple than all your discombobulated minds would prefer to believe, beginning by backing every side to conflict, including those boardrooms where the attendees don’t believe for a moment they are part of the war industry where distraction is a key component, and to make sure everything sticks “to-get-her” (sic) the Oppenheimers and their stooges buy all their opposition including their most vocal conspiracy theorists.

Does it look like I am on the payroll of the Oppenheimers?

Why don’t you start with someone like John Perkins and when you are finally finished interrogating President Obama, let’s do lunch.

Do you not think that the Oppenheimers are furious about the out-of-control arrogance of Texas Judge Martin Lowy making such a public spectacle of the totally unjust US judicial system as he hands me a precedent setting, $4 million DEATH SENTENCE after first stating there is no evidence to convict me of the heinous crime of defamation, and that he was also trampling on my Constitutional Rights beginning with Free Speech and the right to a competent and unbiased judge, without me needing to say a word, since the very short and clear transcripts speak for themselves, as Judge Lowy becomes my very best defense counsel and proving everything I have been saying about the Oppenheimers owning everything and everyone who is available to sell their soul.

You know enough about defamation surely, that the truth is the best defense; and the fact that Lowy didn’t explain his change of mind says what else besides for this entire bogus lawsuit being a very carefully thought through conspiracy between an ex CIA official, Charles Knuff, Lowy and Knuff’s liar-lawyer Alan Loewinsohn as they all thought they could ride the coattails of De Beers-Oppenheimer?

Is that what you are planning to do as well?

Just because the Oppenheimers have on their monopoly money the words IN GOD WE TRUST does not make them G-d.

Are you perfectly clear on that point?

Have you seen how Judge Lowy’s stupidity has resulted in the Oppenheimers having to make the biggest asses of themselves in an effort to hide like never before in their more than a century history, by confusing you all when saying that they were tired of the diamond business, which has afforded them to be the allocators of the world’s resources, and were now going to be selling their remaining 40% interest in De Beers to themselves for a measly $5 billion, half the cost of a single aircraft carrier fleet, and yet your mind tells you that you know enough about American history when in 1929 no American Government official objected to Sir Ernest Oppenheimer becoming the Chief Executive Officer of De Beers and their sister corporation Anglo American Corporation?

Was that paragraph far too long?

Do you remember anything else that happened in 1929, apart from my highly aware and most secretive British-English mother Zena being born?

What is the point, you think, when the human considers performing their own frontal lobotomy?

Have you been contacted by any highly educated Peruvian Inka Trail guide to participate in a roundtable discussion how to improve their pitiful financial situation? Can I count on you to participate even if you do so in silence?

Nor have I forgotten your reply 2 prior to your last message:

From: Jon Nadler
Date: February 21, 2012 2:42:19 PM PST
To: Gary S Gevisser
Subject: RE: Jon, did you get my previous email?

No, we (Kitco) do not have anything to do with the ‘rapid’ rise in gold. It can have an equally ‘rapid’ descent as soon as the Greek rescue-induced commodity euphoria wears off. I also do not think the NYT is going to be game to publish and Ron Paul-flavored sci-fi about America’s ‘missing gold’ or the return to the gold standard (a story beaten to death by now). But, hey, one never knows.

Jon Nadler

Senior Analyst
Kitco Metals Inc.
North America

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—Original message—-:

From: Gary S Gevisser
Date: February 21, 2012 2:03:06 PM PST
To: Jon Nadler
Subject: Jon, did you get my previous email?

Would you like to be copied on an email I am sending Scott Shane of the New York Times? I think you are going to find it interesting. Do you mind if I use your responses?

I assume you are following the rather rapid rise in the price of gold?

Do you have anything to do with it?

Don’t you just love email to help keep track of all those who play things fast and loose?

You would agree that apart from eating right and exercise that helps me choose the right company of my spectacularly sexy F-C wife who provided as busy as she is with her family in Montreal the synopsis of what my writings mean to you all which I will include in my follow up to Shane Scott of the New York Times, I should spare no effort in continuing to get the information out there, and of course as soon as possible.

Do you think it is important to let your investors and readers know that for more than 2 decades Lloyds of London Insurance who accept diamonds as a “money instrument” just so long as they are certified genuine by De Beers or one of their affiliated enterprises like the non-profit Gemological Institute of America, have banned American citizens from investing in Lloyds; and yet the Securities Exchange Commission who are supposed to protect American investors from bad investments as well, continue to allow Lloyds to sell insurance to American citizens and US corporations without telling us Americans that Lloyds think we are a bad risk?

Or do you think Lloyds just think we are bad people, period?

What is worse or do you think it is just splitting hairs?

I want to know what makes someone like yourself 37 years in the industry tick; and by that I don’t mean for you to think that if you were G-d what crime would fit the punishment?

You can confirm Lloyd’s crystal clear position with Mr. Jeffrey R. Krinsk Esq. who has a copy of my most important correspondence with Beverly Stacey of Lloyds, just in case you cannot reach her, or for that matter someone like First Lady Michelle Obama whose husband would know my one Facebook “friend” Black American Rabbi Caspers Funnye, who besides for being a close a cousin of the First Lady has a photo of himself and his wife standing next to the Obamas in the White House under a painting of George Washington, who you will remember was white.

Mr. Krinsk, by the way, has made most of his fortune going after corporate management who fail to disclose material information to their investors and then profit; although in recent years he has focused on those importing stuff like chemicals into the US as he rides the coattails of the Feds.

BTW, Devin Standard who has also never got enough promoting himself on The Internet recently deactivated his Facebook account because after building up one huge number of “friends” wrote and told me that he thought having a FB account was a waste of his time.

Who to believe when they start hiding?

Let’s now come back to the New York Times who on March 19, 1989 published a most important story, HARRY OPPENHEIMER: GOING FOR THE GOLD,

I never met Harry or his son Nicholas, but neither of them had anything to do with my first of four letters published in Jerusalem Post back on Feb.1, 2001 that began:

The pardon of Marc Rich eliminated not only an opportunity of justice being served but it would have allowed the public to view the role that oil brokers play in furthering terrorism

Just in case you didn’t already know, Harry was dead when Clinton granted Marc Rich the most treasonous US Presidential Pardon; do I need to explain?

Clinton should know more about the German-South African Oppenheimers than you since they approved him becoming a De Beers-Rhodes Scholar which was some time after he shook the hand of President John F. Kennedy, who after the November 1960 election, and while still President elect met in “broad daylight” at the Carlyle Hotel with Harry Oppenheimer, who was officially still an “Enemy of the State” given how transparently obvious it was to all the world’s leadership and their intelligence services beginning with the CIA and Mossad that the Oppenheimers were supplying Hitler with his most critical resource; namely industrial diamonds needed to fashion precision tooling to produce mass weapons of destruction.

BTW, do you consider The Holocaust just about a bunch of greedy crazy people wanting to make a profit, and just better at it than anyone else, or do you think there was a little conspiracy going on at the time?

Are you aware of any conspiracy which hasn’t been flushed out, coming to an end because the conspirators simply felt it was the right thing to do?

Have you noticed that I am not quoting from any other sources?

Do you think the Jerusalem Post were wrong in publishing all 4 letters to the editor and all on the same subject or just the first?

Do you think I am the only person who understood what I was saying in that first sentence?

Is there anyone you see in the carbon copy section who you would like to get a second opinion from?

Is their a lawyer you can refer me to?

Can you explain the role that oil brokers play in furthering terrorism?

Do you think if would be easier to follow the money trail to terrorist organizations if there was a better track of the unlimited supply of money that is equivalent to the unlimited supply of untraceable diamonds that the Oppenheimers nor Cecil Rhodes have ever once provided an inventory, and yet they are not only allowed to fix the price of all their diamonds including the all important diamond tipped drilling bits to dig for all the other precious minerals beginning with the all important water, but they have their organizations like Lloyds confirm the price?

Would it bother you, if it turns out to be true that Vice President Cheney when Secretary of Defense had the Oppenheimers’ diamonds placed in the ejection seats of American fighter aircraft beginning in May 1991 over the strong objections of Secretary of the Air Force Rice?

Do you think it never occurred to the Oppenheimers and their German-American partner Charles W. Engelhard Jr. [1917-1971] who first arranged the meeting between Harry and President elect JFK right before JFK was sworn in as the 35th President of the United States when he had JFK and his wife, future Jackie O, as his quests at his private chalet, Camp Chaleur in Quebec, that having totally nonsense diamonds replacing gold as the backing of the soon to be unlimited amount of $ credit available throughout the world, it would lead to that much civil unrest without anyone including the Greeks being able to point a finger at anyone other than the US Government that has been doing the bidding of the Oppenheimers?

If you were President Obama or one of the Republican candidates running for President and you were shown this photo below of Putin who like Marc Rich keeps his stash in Zug, Switzerland, bowing

to Nicholas, would you say to yourself, “Nicholas Oppenheimer is more of an expert on economics than me, and I would listen very carefully what he has to say about how his family’s De Beers-Anglo American Corporation and all their tens of thousands of affiliate defense/offense contractors bring stability to the diamond market that would otherwise be chaotic”?

What do you want to know about the October 1917 Russian Revolution that you cannot find on my website 2facetruth.com?

Can I count on you to prevent the US Government-Oppenheimers from shutting down 2facetruth.com?

Ps – after I return, I will be following up with Figi’s Ministry of Lands and Mineral Department, how do you think I should begin?

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On Feb 21, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Jon Nadler wrote:

Yes, I do not. I thought I was being very clear.

And, when Fox News, and/or O’Reilly and/or Ron Paul and such come into the equation, you totally lose me.

A Kitco senior analyst does not a gold shill equate. I have been in this business for 37 years now and
no amount of anti-Fed and anti-gov. fear mongering and paranioa and conspiracy theories (Glenn Beck comes to mind with his epic God, Gold & Guns rant) will alter that which I know to be true about gold. BTW, I have never (since 1972 mind you) been without a basic gold holding in my portfolio.

I am all for a core 10% gold insurance position for anyone with assets worth protecting.

On the other hand, I am convinced that you, and many others, will do far better by exploring
the high tech and real estate opportunities that you firm tracks down.

Gold is not a panacea
for what ails the world.
Gold is not an asset that should ‘perform’ and enrich one.

Gold is simple ‘life insurance’ for your other assets. Is your life insurance policy 50% of your assets in premiums? Do YOU hope to cash in on your life insurance
policy anytime soon? I do not.

I hope this settles matters.

Sincerely,

Jon Nadler

Senior Analyst
Kitco Metals Inc.
North America

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——
From: Gary S Gevisser
Date: February 21, 2012 3:13:25 PM PST
To: Jon Nadler
Cc: rest; Jeffrey Krinsk
Subject: Re: US gold

“I do not”?

Explain how you can say that the US did not default on its promissory note obligations as our trading partners such as China, when paid with US $s prior to August 15, 1971 were led to believe that at any time, while they held on to those monies, they could cash them in for gold because a significant part of the deal with the acceptance of those monies was that they were backed by gold otherwise they were only backed by the “good word” of those printing the money, but following Nixon’s speech that was no longer the case, was it not?

In other words, the US Government lied when saying they could exchange those $s in to gold, which meant they couldn’t trust the US Government, does it not?

Would you agree that if you lie once, you are prone to lie again?

BTW, I don’t need to read any book or article other than Alan Greenspan’s classic 1966 essay GOLD AND ECONOMIC FREEDOM which I have; and second, I am speaking to a Senior Analyst for Kitco a branded product.

Ps – I include Mr. Krinsk in part because he assisted in editing this piece below:

From: Gary S. Gevisser
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 6:10 PM PT
To: Bill O Reilly – Fox News
Cc: rest
Subject: Epilogue to Manager Minute One

The collapse of the stock market here in the United States is all but certain. It makes no sense that a publicly traded company should be valued more than a private business which generally sells for between 3 and 5 times predictable earnings plus liquidation value, i.e. “less godwill blah blah” [sic]. And remember management of private companies are much more accountable assuming they have the checks in place for their “audirtors not writely balanced” [sic].

Publicly traded companies with their diverse shareholder ownership allow management much more flexibility to mix things up, taking with the right and hooking the owners with their left, lefties to boot. Right now the smart money has left or is in the process of leaving the markets in search of “safer heavens” [sic], safe harbor provisions a thing of the past.

President Bush should do the smart thing and immediately suspend trading of public corporations, thereby protectING the innocent and naive who are simply throwing good money after bad. Those well run public companies should have no fear for they will be at a competitive advantage relative to the capital that has been so smartly socked away.

The scars of 1907 remain on the masonry buildings housing the stock exchange of Wall Street. The fundamentals of the economy at that time were much worse than in 1929. One man J.P. Morgan saved the day, not so lucky for the victims of 1929. History has a way of repeating itself but today the “risk markets” are more fragile than at any time in history.

“Risk assessment” is my business.

Gary S. Gevisser

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On Feb 21, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Jon Nadler wrote:

I do not.

You might do yourself a favor and read “Making Sense of the Dollar” by Marc Chandler. Let me just sum up that going off the gold standard reflected the anti-growth bias that a gold standardinherently signifies and that the underlying and historic thrust of US economic policy has been, and continues to be, a pro-growth one. See one William Jennings Bryan and his ‘cross of gold’ speech. Enough said.

Jon Nadler

Senior Analyst
Kitco Metals Inc.
North America

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E-mail: jnadler@kitco.com

——

From: Gary S Gevisser
Date: February 21, 2012 1:26:23 PM PST
To: Jon Nadler
Subject: Re: US gold

Do you agree, though, that when the US went off the Gold Standard it defaulted on those monies; i.e. promissory notes paid to our trading partners, who going forward if they wanted to sell us their goods had to accept our $s that we began printing out of thin air?

On Feb 21, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Jon Nadler wrote:

The other numbers (working stock, etc.) are not relevant, but the 8133.5 tonnes certainly is. Even if it IS valued at the silly old number of $42.20 per ounce rather than at market. That is what the US has, and that is what everyone reports and/or depends on. None of that however has any bearing on much of anything else as a) the US will not return to a gold standard b) it will not sell the gold and c) there is no sense in trying to ‘value’ gold based on some outstanding sum of money in circulation (the oldest gold bug argument extant). The US is suffering from a case of ‘benign neglect’ when it comes to its gold reserves. BTW, when people allege sinister goings-on and an empty Ft. Knox, they are partially right; most of the gold was moved to West Point but there is nothing sinister going on.

Jon Nadler

Senior Analyst
Kitco Metals Inc.
North America

US & Canada Toll-Free: 1 (877) 839-8036
Websites: www.kitco.com and www.kitco.cn
Blog: http://www.kitco.com/ind/index.html#nadler
E-mail: jnadler@kitco.com
From: Gary S Gevisser [garyniod@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:33 PM
To: Jon Nadler
Subject: Re: US gold

i just placed a call to Fitzgerald who produced that report and left a voice message.

I don’t see that there is any mention of a physical audit and nor am I suggesting that the numbers are wrong.

Rather I am looking at how much easier it is to get our arms around exactly how much gold the US still has in reserve rather than the amount of money in circulation where [it is impossible to quantify] just the credit lines extended by banks to preferential customers and those customers in turn “sign surety” for other types of “off balance sheet” which allow for the “guarantor” to receive for being so nice “sweetheart” deals on other investment opportunities like new stock offerings and “founder stock” positions in new as well as old real estate developments; and then there is the business of credit lines offered by internet as well as brick and mortar casinos that I am I rather expert in given my family and close personal friends pivotal role in such an impossible to regulate industry; and just by the way I have been having over the course of the past several days a most interesting dialogue with Andrea Kerzner, the heir apparent of Sol “Gambling Czar” Kerzner who I have known a lifetime, but not quite as long as my mother who when she and her family emigrated from England to Durban, South Africa back in late 1947 upon arriving in Durban first stayed at Kerzner’s parents’ Minorah Hotel; and I won’t bore you more with those details.

I did find it interesting that one of the footnotes to the gold/silver audit are the following words, “This Schedule does not reflect any United States gold and silver reported by the United States Mint as working stock, or any reserve amounts due to be replenished by the PEF, nor does it include Treasury-owned gold held at Federal Reserve Banks (FRB).”

Does the US Treasury provide those numbers?

On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Jon Nadler wrote:

1954?

No.

Try 2010 or probably something even more recent:

Size: 8133.5 metric tonnes in reserves. Confirmed. See attached.

Cheers

Jon Nadler

Senior Analyst
Kitco Metals Inc.
North America

US & Canada Toll-Free: 1 (877) 839-8036
Websites: www.kitco.com and www.kitco.cn
Blog: http://www.kitco.com/ind/index.html#nadler
E-mail: jnadler@kitco.com

________________________________________
From: Gary Gevisser [garyniod@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:28 PM
To: Jon Nadler
Subject: US gold

Could you confirm that the last physical audit done on US gold reserves took place in 1954 and if that is incorrect when was it last done?

Do you know what is the current stated gold reserves of the US?

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