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Dormant case – Zena Gevisser Zulman – Exhibit 1 – Phone conversations, June 30-July 22, 2016

From: GaryStevenGevisser <garystevengevisser>

Subject: Fwd: Dormant case – Zena Gevisser Zulman – Exhibit 1 – Phone conversations, June 30-July 22, 2016

Date: August 23, 2017 at 8:00:57 PM PDT

To: Oren Weinberg <oren>

Begin forwarded message:

From: GaryStevenGevisser <garystevengevisser>

Subject: Dormant case – Zena Gevisser Zulman – Exhibit 1 – Phone conversations, June 30-July 22, 2016

Date: June 24, 2017 at 12:16:17 AM PDT

To: Judge Yocheved Greenvald-Rand <pniyot>

1) Subject: Under any circumstances whatsoever (June 30, 2016)

….absolutely not, under any circumstances whatsoever.

2) Subject: Where would anyone get such a stupid idea? (June 30, 2016)

Gary: I’ve been blocked from talking with you.

Zena: Why?

Gary: Well.. I don’t know why. Neil, Melvin and Kathy won’t respond to the email that I sent them after I met with Kerry…upset that there was any conversation about you not returning to Wive.

Zena: Where would anyone get such a stupid idea?

3) Subject: I would like to spend the rest of my life near you (July 11, 2016)

Zena Ash Gevisser Zulman, “…I would like you to be here with me; I would like to spend the rest of my life near you; I don’t just like talking on the telephone.”

4) Subject: They all know what I want. It is not a secret (July 16, 2016)

Zena: Hello… what can I do for you my love…well if I hear your voice, I’m wonderful… I feel I would like to see you, when will I see you?…They all know what I want. It is not a secret.

5) Subject: Everything about your life is positive (July 20, 2016)

Gary: What do you most remember about me; what most comes to mind?

Zena: That you are lucid; that you believe in things, that whatever you want you try to get done; everything about your life is positive, what else would you want me to say?

Gary: What about Melvin?

Zena: I was saying I don’t have any contact with Melvin. I don’t have a point of view. We don’t have any discussions. Melvin doesn’t come into my thinking.

Gary: He doesn’t call you up?

Zena: No

Gary: What about Kathy?

Zena: No

Gary: She doesn’t call you up?”

Zena: Not really, She came here and then she said she was here and that’s it. She will tell me that maybe she will come again but she doesn’t tell me what year.

Gary: What do you most remember about Kathy?

Zena: She’s my daughter. [Note the Zena Gevisser laugh].

Gary: Anything else?

Zena: No

Gary: What about Neil?

Zena: He’s my son.

Gary: What do you remember most about him?

Zena: Nothing; he’s my son.

Gary: How would you describe Neil?

Zena: As my son.

Gary: That’s it?

Zena: Yes.

6) Subject: Neutral (July 22, 2016)

Gary: What do you remember most about dad [Bernie Gevisser]?

Zena: He was my husband.

Gary: What about him, how would you describe dad?

Zena: Neutral. He didn’t have any views on anything, and then when he went to, wherever he went, to Australia, suddenly he became a man of views, but when he lived with me he didn’t have any views, okay… And then he became an old man in Australia, and an entirely different person.”

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