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When did the attack on Syria begin in earnest?

From: GaryStevenGevisser <garystevengevisser>
Subject: Fwd: When did the attack on Syria begin in earnest?
Date: September 5, 2013 7:18:28 AM PDT
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From: GaryStevenGevisser <garystevengevisser>
Subject: When did the attack on Syria begin in earnest?
Date: September 5, 2013 7:11:05 AM PDT
To: “Devin Standard – eldest son of former President of New York State Bar Kenneth Standard.” <devinstandard>
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Engelhard Jr. [1917-1971] whose 2006 autobiography THE UNLIKELY FORESTER mentions the torture-murder of D. Gevisser’s first cousin’s daughter, ANC military wing member Sandy Jacobson whose brother Steve Jacobson is a Facebook friend of Mark Gevisser who while publishing the biography of US-De Beers-Engelhard Minerals & Chemicals Corporation black puppet Thabo Mbeki, The Dream Deferred in 2007, has yet to comment publicly on either whether or not he and/or his father David snitched on members of the ANC’s military wing that contributed to the torture-death of Sandy or the clear message murder of his close relation Sandy Jacobson whose murderers would have known that David Gevisser supported the Armed Struggle of the African National Congress in its fight, not against the United States of America’s sponsored South African Apartheid Regime, but against the true Freedom Fighters of South Africa who were easily hunted down on their way to the Apartheid Regime’s ANC-CIA terrorist training camps. Nor has Mark Gevisser explained to the world why Mark, his 3 younger brothers and mother Hedda and all those who curry favor with them are so quiet about David Gevisser being the male heir of Engelhard Jr. – Chapter 18 THE AMERICAN CONSPIRACY of Edward Jay Epstein’s The Diamond Invention book – who along with his German-South African partners, the Sir Ernest Oppenheimer, Harry and Nick O. clan were the greatest beneficiaries of The WW II Holocaust and the 3rd Reich’s Southern Division-The National Party which quickly took root in South Africa, none of which was lost on the long memory Mossad who assassinated Engelhard Jr on March 2 1971 and having him leave an extraordinary paper trail starting right before when he named David Gevisser Chief Executive Officer of Engelhard Enterprises South Africa in 1970 which is the year prior to Engelhard’s death which David Gevisser gets twice wrong in THE UNLIKELY FORESTER. 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While waiting here in Los Angeles for a meeting to begin in about 28 minutes, I posted up a follow up response to my initial comments on September 3 to your speech earlier in the evening at 7:20 AM where you called for my reaction as well as another nobody. [Can you give your opinion on what a reasonable person would conclude once checking me out thoroughly on The Internet.]
Standard Surveillance
September 3 at 7:20pm ·

  • I am not convinced that my tax dollars should be paying to kill some Syrians because we don’t like the way in which they killed other Syrians. Where does it stop? What is the policy?

There are lots of Nigerians (Islamic terrorists called Boko Haram) who are murdering Christian Nigerians by slitting their throats and gouging out their eyes at this very moment. Nigeria has lots of oil as well, so does our Peace Prize winning President want to to kill the bad Syrians now, and the bad Nigerians later? Or, does he forget the innocent Nigerians because their deaths don’t count?

What about the North Koreans? Their Dictator is murdering and torturing far more people than in Syria. If we really wanted to risk our blood and treasure to make a significant reduction in misery and death of innocents, North Korea would be the place to start. But, that’s only if we want to save innocents?

President Obama, are you really just attacking Syria because you are embarrassed about you and Hilary screwing up in Benghazi and now you want to attack a little country which can’t strike back so people will forget about our dead ambassador and Navy Seals?

WHERE IS THE COMPELLING STRATEGIC INTEREST FOR BOMBING ANOTHER COUNTRY?
Why should we spend one penny or risk one person’s life?
What would winning look like?
What would losing look like?
What could go wrong?
Where does it say in the US Constitution that when the President double dares some idiot to cross an imaginary red line that the US Military has to start killing people?
What do Cindy Sheehan and Gary Gevisser have to say about this?
What else, which consumed the world, started in August almost 100 years ago?
Will bombing another country create,reduce, or have no effect on the number of actual, or potential terrorists?
What will our largest creditor, China, say about this?
If China doesn’t like it, what could they do to our economy?
What does Russia think? Iran? Saudi, Israel?
Why do we think the British have voted no?

MR. President (Peace Prize Winner),
If there is a case for risking our blood and treasure, I would really like to hear it.
Feel free, convince me.

Otherwise, to me, it looks like all the drone killing has given you a kind of power madness, and you are looking like the weak little kid who starts fights because you know your big brother(The US Military) will protect you.

You don’t need to kill all kinds of people to be great. Maybe just introduce some good policies which lead to more economic freedom and individual liberty. That economic freedom and individual would likely result in a reduction of the 50 million people on food stamps. Get it down to 5 million, that would be a nice achievement.
Reintroduce concepts of duty, honor, family, dignity, obligation, and decency, into American discourse instead of celebrating the coarse and the vulgar. You could become known as a great man for that.

You do not have my consent to use my tax dollars to kill Syrians without an explanation and a plan. DO THE RIGHT THING!

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  • Ellen Stein Nice thoughts. My sentiments exactly. Its funny. I am not a full on RP supporter; but believe in a healthy debate and rational policies which seem to be missing from the dems and gop these days. Hope you are well!
    September 3 at 8:29pm via mobile · Like
  • Gary Gevisser What action are you taking? Are you saying that you are not going to pay taxes?

    Once I get a clearer understanding of how you are positioning yourself personally then I will provide you with a more in depth analysis of this most important point.

    BTW, what happened of significance almost a hundred years ago in August?
    September 3 at 8:42pm · Like

  • Jacki Muir I don’t agree with your stand on guns but I agree with your comments here!
    September 3 at 9:23pm · Like · 2
  • Steve J. Gomez I don’t like my tax dollars to pay Halliburton to pay for missiles and arms either.
    September 3 at 9:36pm via mobile · Like · 2
  • Dwight Pries You have to wonder if he’s not using a tactic from Kim Jong Un’s book of foreign policy and saber rattling. If this situation dissolves in two weeks without another word I guess we’ll know the answer. Either way it’s sad and wrong.
    Yesterday at 5:14am via mobile · Like
  • Erik Forman Team America: World Police (when it suits us)
    14 hours ago · Edited · Like
  • Gary Gevisser Devin, you haven’t answered my straightforward question, and nor have the other commentators been put off by your non-response.

    The war against Syria began the moment the US Government, representing exclusively the mineral monopolists led by South African based De Beers felt that the US Dollar was under attack.

    It is the back room negotiations that count most although President Nixon when announcing on Aug 15, 1971 that a war was being waged against the US Dollar by “international money speculators” which resulted in the US going officially off the Gold Standard, Nixon never explained who wrote his incomprehensible, totally illogical speech other than of course the top operatives of De Beers who wrote the speech and when their “common herd” never reacted they didn’t exactly go out and shoot themselves.

    Would you like to hear more and at the same time tee up more who don’t quite know as much as you?

    How are Charlotte and the kids doing? What do you tell them about me?
    a few seconds ago · Like

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