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Christina Moritsch-Krall is either scared or maybe she threw a mug at her computer. Truth does that, OR, she’s been bought.  

Why isnt anyone saying anything?

This mans mother has been kidnapped by corrupt lawyers and greedy siblings, and noone can say a word? 

What’s  wrong with you all?

Can’t anyone help, have a lawyer friend, know someone NOT on the payroll of DAAC.

What the hell are you waiting for?

SPEAK UP.

Mr. Dershowitz, How much did the Nazis let you keep in order to remain silent all this time? And when the war was over, why not let authorities know of ANY and EVERY Nazi collaborators that you knew of?

There were trials and death penalties , but for some reason, you escaped, not only the holocaust under your nose, against your own kind, but then, you went a step further and stayed silent all the while your emprisoned fellow jews are made to pay for their incarceration.

Unbelievable silence.

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Furthermore, Mr. Dershowitz, Are you that complicit, that you’ll choose money over mortality like so many others? It actually terrifies me that YOU are a judge over peoples lives. Just guessing here, you must be an inheritance or mortgage judge. Yeh? Please correct me if I’m wrong.

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Oops, that was supposed to be in “converstion search”.

 “enough” was Not to you, Gary.

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9/7/18, 12:48 PM

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Subject: Who are his friends?

Who is Elon Musk talking to?

These are questions I am not asking any of you, including Steve Bailey who first needs to clear things off his plate which he has been avoiding like the plague, not satisfied that he has Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz in “checkmate”, Roy Essakow, beneficiary of his parents’ undivided loyalty to the Jewish Kapo, Durban North Lazarus clan, headed by German-South African Gunter THE PIG Lazarus, not to mention Essakow and his threatening elder brother, The Coupon Clipper is Jack The Ripper Jeffrey Essakow, were that much more carefully watched once Roy joined Jewish terrorist financier Marc Rich in Zug, Switzerland, a strong anti-Jewish/anti Israel stronghold, German-Austrian Trust Fund kid Christina Moritsch-Krall whose family’s wealth Hitler left untouched, or for that matter Martin Krok, eldest Trust Fund kid of Solly Krok who  turned to me to improve the intelligence of all his children, an impossible task and so I was left to mitigate their stupidity of epic proportions which the most powerful anti-Semitic non-Jewish people, lead global banker, the German-South AFRICAN Oppenheimer family with their tentacles extending to the Dutch Royal family sought to exploit, and seeing the weakest link in my family, Mark Gevisser, eldest son of David Gevisser, the “male heir” of German-American Charles W Engelhard Jr. (1917-1971) whose principal successors, David Gevisser and Harry Oppenheimer didn’t take long to own the entire US auto industry thanks to their supplying Detroit from their Apartheid South Africa with the platinum embedded in Engelhard’s-Oppenheimer’s catalytic converters, and it wasn’t long before they owned the entire world’s automotive industry.

This is only to encourage Musk to snap out of it.

He must be dejected. The people are not supporting him. They are fickle, like all of you.

They complain, but they don’t do anything to change.

I’m currently far out in nature, and away from my laptop.

That does not mean I haven’t been thinking about the murder of my mother Zena and all your ugliness which is far worse than the slaughter of the 6 million during our one of a kind, unprecedented Jewish Holocaust which I covered well in the 4 articles published by the Jerusalem Post immediately following the pardon of Rich by 42nd DeBeers-Rhodes Scholar President Bill Clinton who in 1968 when invited to London as a DeBeers-Rhodes Scholar was as carefully analyzed as was Senator Barrack Obama when first visiting mineral rich South Africa in August 2006, less than 3 weeks before the meeting on Sept. 5, 2006 between Nick Oppenheimer and Putin.

The decision last evening to appear on talk radio and smoke a joint, may not appear to be the most intelligent decision of anything but demon Musk.

He had to have known that his CFO was resigning today, but he did make point of our bad fossil fuel decisions.

Not to mention, the coincidence of Musk choosing the number 420 as the Tesla share price buyout, should be firmly implanted in all your heads.

As litigators such as kingpin @Jeffrey Robert Krinsk circle Musk in increasing numbers, loving to death the resignation of the CFO, it makes it that much more imperative for Musk to expose the Achilles heel of Wall Street which Mr Krinsk Esq and I first addressed publicly in an email to Bill O’Reilly of Fox back on July 23, 2002 after I first “tested the  waters” with Ernst & Young auditor-accountant Mr Jeffrey Malatskey  just a few days before which sent Malatskey into a tailspin.

Today is also the first anniversary of my last meeting with San Diego’s most well-known multi-billionaire philanthropist-industrialist Ernest Rady who ended our meeting by reminding me to send him two hyperlinks; one to The Lady’s Speech on Youtube which begins with my mother Zena so eloquently explaining her choice of me because I make her “feel important” versus my “too busy” plotting 3 elder siblings and their hangerons; and second, the hyperlink to Epstein’s The Diamond Invention, which if it frightens Musk as it does all the wretched, that is still no reason to think all is lost.

Again, Elon Musk can instantly snap out of it and put all the world’s Wall Street auditors on the defensive from which it will be impossible for them to recover, and they have J. Malatskey as well as Uranium One director, Terry Rosenberg, former head of WS auditing firm Arthur Anderson South Africa to thank.

Don’t forget that Musk is not only very intelligent, he was born and raised in DAAC (DeBeers-Anglo American Corporation) controlled Apartheid South Africa, and did this non-Jewish 17 year old serve in the DAAC’s Apartheid Regime’s military as did J. Essakow, Kippah wearer David Levy, my 2 elder brothers Neil and Melvin, my brother in law, David Danziger, along with 32,000 other Jewish South African boys who all had the easy option of immigrating free of charge.

Let’s just all of us assume for the moment that coincidences …

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…, photosynthesis, photo electric effect,  Special-General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are not the only genius indicative of the presence of a Higher Energy Force (HER), would it be too much to ask of you hypocrite Jewish people to go right now on your hands and knees and pray for the ongoing enlightenment of Elon Musk.

To be continued….

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Btw, I just heard “pretty good” feedback of what I shared with you all today, from a very important independent thinker.

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I’d like to put something to you that may be new but I’d like you to give it some consideration. If we want to live in a different paradigm, one thing is for sure that we have to change from the inside. We have to not look to personalities or some entity to come and save us. We can tell no one is coming because they would have come by now – there have been so many atrocities. Yes we have to change Elon Musk’s mind however we have to be very conscious that we must not look to him as some kind of savior. Now I know he is very influential and could influence a lot of people. But we shouldn’t go through him because it is still teaching them that the change lies in this man’s hands. We have to teach people that they have to think for themselves now. I know it sounds harsh but otherwise we’re always going to be stuck with ignorance. We have to teach that the power lies in our hands. And if we believe that ourselves (which we absolutely must if we are going to move out of this paradigm) then we wouldn’t be looking to this one man to change his mind. Decentralization is key! You see leaving decisions in say, Musk’s  hands, means all those people are then going to follow him about other  things too. One day he just may think that bombing Palestine isn’t so good but he’d be ok with bombing Oslo. I welcome discussion and even “negative” points or criticisms.

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But we need to talk to each other and I though you all would make great conversationalists.

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September 7, 2018

9/7/18, 2:01 PM

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First, I want to make note of the need for clarity in a previous, and most important paragraph even though most of you would have been able to follow what I said, and which I cannot say the same about what this Denise Ward wrote and which I couldn’t follow, other than she appears to just want to be heard and at the same time to distract as much as possible.

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Don’t forget that Musk is not only very intelligent, he was born and raised in DAAC (DeBeers-Anglo American Corporation) controlled Apartheid South Africa, and NOR did this non-Jewish 17 year old serve in the DAAC’s Apartheid Regime’s military as did J. Essakow, Kippah wearer David Levy, my 2 elder brothers Neil and Melvin, my brother in law, David Danziger, along with 32,000 other Jewish South African boys who all had the easy option of immigrating free of charge to Israel.

Back to Denise Ward. DW does not provide any background on herself which shows that she has led in any way, shape or form. She also doesn’t show that she is any less ignorant than the rest of you were until you became acquainted with the Diamond Invention Game [DIG] well described in Epstein’s The D I book, and then you support to capitalize, no different to my 3 elder siblings and their hangerons.

So Ms. DW, you need to get up to speed by reading The D I book and if you have any questions as to how to locate it free on The Internet, please don’t interrupt this conversation, simply send a FB message to Steven Bailey who asked me to add you and a bunch others to this ATOH conversation.

BTW, everyone thinks that they think for themselves; and the most difficult to teach are those who are self-taught and whose teacher is a fool.

Let’s now move on to “unhappy face” Trevor Goldberg.

Everyone should note that following the posting, “Let’s just all of us assume for the moment that coincidences …” we got an “unhappy face” from my failed first year business-economics student at the University of Natal-Kwazulu, South Africa, Trevor Goldberg who also hasn’t always got along with the Jewish leadership of Durban, South Africa, but of course Trevor who thought nothing of stealing cars along with his other privileged white Durban Jewish friends and taking them on joyrides, has a most terrible memory, as do all liars.

To be perfectly clear, Trevor Goldberg’s reasons for not getting along have nothing to do with his competency in business; quite the contrary in fact; but still it was wrong that he was treated so harshly by the Durban Jewish leadership who were no smarter, just bigger crooks.

I, on the other hand, have never had a problem attracting the best and brightest throughout the world, and only once I decided that the time was right on 11.11.2004 to break my 24 year silence with the DAAC and begin exposing them, and of course it would have been wrong to leave out all the DAAC’s Jewish Kapos-sellouts, did I begin to encounter “stiff resistance”.

Trevor, you know who you are. Be yourself.

Once a talker, always a talker. All you do with your life in an effort to attract just one beautiful woman to settle down with you, and you are not getting younger now 60 years of age, and probably still eating poorly, is gossip badly about others. 

Given how each of us has our purpose, and the timing couldn’t be more perfect, again since you are not getting younger and your skin can’t be as attractive as it was when you were a baby, maybe this Denise Ward is God’s perfect match for you.

[Lynne Bentel has to be wetting herself].

Trevor you have such a great story about multi-billionaire Jonathan Beare and Durban Jewish lawyer, Alan Magid who met with sellout Nelson Mandela while he was serving his DAAC 27 year imprisonment,

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and how they forced you to shut down your very small clothing.

Trevor, can you think of a better time than now?

BTW, did you notice that Cliff Benn gave a “thumbs up” yesterday to a photo I uploaded of the healthy, clean food we eat? 

It has been a good quarter of a century since I heard from Cliff who was also involved in your ill-fated clothing company; and perhaps, it was simply a mistake and he hit the “like” button, but of course it shows that you all keep checking in.

It is quite extraordinary that Alec Boswijk hasn’t removed himself from this conversation as he has from another conversation I started with him and Steve Bailey, and Boswijk also unfriended me, all because he too had been caught playing it fast and loose.

No one really trusts the next person once they get their head around the DIG.

It is of course a very huge positive that one book, The D I which explains rather well how unbeleivably powerful and evil is the DAAC, allows the entire world to figure out in the next instant whether someone is good or bad.

So far, Elon Musk has not proven to be in the least bit disappointing; but again, it would be foolish to place one’s trust in one man, or one woman, or all of humanity, given how we have the extraordinary evidence from the laws of nature such as photosynthesis, photoelectric effect,  Special-General Relativity and Quantum Electrodynamics-Mechanics are not the only genius indicative of the presence of a Higher Energy Force (HER).

Nor should the world be greatly disappointed if people like my 3 elder siblings, the Essakows, Alan Cline and Jonathan Gevisser have difficulty getting their head around Quantum Physics-Gravity, but they are capable of following the crowd who when hearing someone such as physicist Richard Feynman saying that Quantum Mechanics shows that “nature is unpredictable” can repeat, “nature is unpredictable” and sound like they are on top of the thinking of the greatest human minds.

The fact that Feynman may not have pointed out that the ongoing accelerated expansion of the universe which defies gravity, the foundation of the laws of the physical world, is one massive example of nature being “unpredictable”, does not mean Feynman hadn’t thought about it.

It is also very possible that I have yet to come across Feynman having written extensively on this point.

Maybe this is something that Larry Winokur while he is sailing on his big yacht can look into.

That request was only to give Larry something to do and for the rest of you not to be distracted by the mounting evidence that HER exists.

It is also possible that had Richard Feynman not read the start of the Jewish Friday Night-Sabbath service so many times, to the point that he took the reciting increasingly literally, he would have discovered HER before he had his barmitzvah, given how he had a one of a kind brain which should easily have allowed him to view the words as nothing more than encouraging curiosity.

They really are great words:

And it was evcening and it was morning –

The sixth day. And the heaven and the earth were finished and all their host. And on the seventh day God had finished his workd which had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and he hallowed it, because he rested thereon from all his work which God had creat and made.

Can you imagine God-HER being so incredibly repetitive?

It is as if God is only trying to coach the Essakow boys.

God appears very slow.

I have probably heard that Jewish prayer read many more times than Jesus Christ; in part because Jesus died much younger.

I also went to a Jewish Day School in Durban, like a bunch others on this ATOH conversation.

Never once did I hear anyone question why God couldn’t have summoned an editor and kept it short?

Again, this is only a “mind experiment”, and something I would have liked to take up with Richard Feynman, and now it is simply going to have to wait.

Imagine though, if Feynman had got beyond God laughing at how slow is the human and it is only improvements in technology that make us think that we are not devolving, he might have written a single paper stating, “The evidence is overwhelming, God exists” and then all the hypocrite Jewish religious people would have come down on him the way they treated Jesus Christ; or at least that is how the story created 400 years after Christ’s supposed death and resurrection goes.

Bear in mind, all Christ supposedly had a problem with were the corrupt Jewish real estate developers and business people bribing the Jewish Kapo priests for the best location closest to the Jewish Temple, and nor am I aware that Christ made a big song and dance that Jewish Kapo High Priests were the puppets of the Romans.

Maybe this is something that Mr. Krinsk Esq. can look into after his game of tennis before sitting down with Marcy for their meal this evening.

We should also remember that Patrice Lumumba was probably not provided a last meal before his assassination which of course changed the landscape of the modern day world.

You would also expect that the smartest scientists in the world, knowing the power of the corrupt priesthood of all the religions including academia, the new corrupt church, have steered clear of putting all the religious hypocrites to the test, and knowing that they are more than likely, highly probable do them what they did to Jesus Christ.

Back to Alan Magid whose one daughter is married to realtor Neil Resnick – hi Neil, hi Bess.

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One of Jewish American Neil’s best friends is Jewish South African Richard Friedman who I mentioned the other say as I was signing off.

It was in fact Derrick Beare who provided me with a copy [scroll up] of Alan Magid’s handwritten transcript of Mandela’s very revealing statement which I would now like to submit to the US Congress as well as the International Court of Justice in The Hague.

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Who remembers very carefully observed Barack Obama not in the least bit bothered by his wife’s dirty looks?

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Bess and Neil should also have a copy, if not the original, The Struggle Continues card which the black South African defendants represented by Alan Magid, gave to attorney Magid “in appreciation” of his services, which they told him he should use were he to ever find himself in trouble with the armed wing of the ANC, Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK).

Of course everyone knows today why so very peaceful were the 1994 South African elections ending the 46 year uninterrupted rule of the DAAC’s Apartheid Regime given how well the DAAC’s South African military machine wiped out all Mandela’s opposition during his 27 year “in safe custody”.

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Ms. Ward, are you following along?

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Of course for Derrick Beare who has yet to let me know if he is going to be paying as much attention as the rest of you to my account of how he and I flushed out DAAC-Uranium One Director, former Arthur Anderson head, Terry Rosenberg, to have got his hands on both the handwritten statement of Mandela as well as The Struggle Continues card, is because of his family’s closeness to the Magids who lived just down the road from my immediate family at 50 Bowes-Lyon Avenue, Glenwood, Durban.

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Look I’m not playing games here. We have psychopaths running the world. We have heard men speak for thousands of years. The only cred we need is that we speak truth and new truth. New truth is this – truth from a womans perspective. Never been done before! So you’d think everyone would want to hear?  Men ought to listen to women now since y’all left us out good and proper in all the years to date. We’re still being left out (20% is the toothless ratio) And that’s the numbers women fill. Not good enough! Time to listen to women first. Then men should speak. Just out of courtesy if nothing else for all the wars and violence men rate highly for. If you want to listen then I’ll speak but if you don’t, I’m moving on!

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And look at the length of your messages! Whoa!

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DW, thank you for letting us know. Before you leave, could you provide more of your background, other than you like red flowers?

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Do you eat any form of meat?

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I like all flowers. Ask away. I am not one to fit into little slots

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No I don’t eat meat not even @Issy Fisher

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I don’t get this “not even Issy Fisher” my Hebrew high school teacher? Are there some humans you would eat?

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Anyway what are YOU about? Why am I on this lsit? I thought the name “A test of humanity” sounded like you’d all be enlightened but by the way you Gary speak to me it’s very illwilled.

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No it was autocomplete. I meant fish. It nearly did it again.

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I am all well explained here as well as on my website 2facetruth.com. You would do well to check out the ABOUT section.

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So what can you teach me? And what can you learn? I’m not here to play stupid curriculum vitae games.

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I have not interest in checking you out. You’re a blowhard.

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Why don’t you just tell me? I am trying to communicate with you.

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What I can teach you, is not typing, but I can suggest again you read The D I book which you can safely assume everyone here, including Steve Bailey who promoted you to be here, has read.

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Why should I invest my time in it? What’s to recommend it?

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I will tell you everything you want to know, in just a minute.

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If you go the normal way, politics, corporations, just forget it. I’m way past that.

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We have to go amateur now.  Rogue amateur.

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First, so as not to lose the rest of the audience including all the Jewish people who might now decide to set aside that very important ritual service reading for this Sabbath given how they are possibly only now coming to grips with their slow minds, let me make the connection between Mandela held in prison for 27 years as his opposition was slaughtered, and no doubt helped by the 32,000 Jewish South African boys who served in the Apartheid Regime’s brutal military, and Alan Magid-Jonathan Beare.

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DW, I see that you are “holding your horses”, that is good.

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Jonathan Beare along with George Soros are the two most DAAC watched Jewish people on the planet, and of course a few good steps up from the Essakow boys because Soros and Beare are of the two generations right after The Holocaust.

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When someone refuses to provide their educational background and/or work experience, it is very difficult to figure out their agenda, especially if they come across as a flake.

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Not even Trevor Goldberg comes across as a flake because if you have any questions about Trevor Goldberg or anyone else on this conversation, you can ask them and/or me.

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I’m not interested in getting a history lesson. Or pleasing the audience. If you really want to change the paradigm I believe we have to start now and nobody is talking about it.Everyone is talking about cred or history. History is all lies –  the history we’ve been told. You can do that if you wish, that’s the way it should be regarding life on earth. But I want to concentrate on the  things we need to do to move to our own paradigm, one based on love and health.

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Before you can fix a problem, you first have to identify who is profiting from creating the different problems.

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I can’t prove myself to you. You just have to take me from the heart. That is the only way to go in this fabricated world. Look at all the psychopaths with great histories. Even Gandhi was a sexist double-crosser.

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You are moving away.

You began, “But we shouldn’t go through him [Elon Musk] because it is still teaching them that the change lies in this man’s hands. We have to teach people that they have to think for themselves now. I know it sounds harsh but otherwise we’re always going to be stuck with ignorance. We have to teach that the power lies in our hands. And if we believe that ourselves (which we absolutely must if we are going to move out of this paradigm) then we wouldn’t be looking to this one man to change his mind. Decentralization is key!”

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He did some good, so did Hitler, he built awesome roads and built Germany. So what? What we need is the ability for everyone on this planet number one – to have food and shelter!  Hello! Two – internet connection. And everyone is a sovereign native of planet earth so each and every one of us, children too, are equal. Nobody is better or worse. I’d like to live on my planet in that way, how about you? If you do, then I’ll talk with you. If not, I’m not wasting any more time on books and bullshit.

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When you say “We have to teach..”, do you include yourself?

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Yes. I don’t think I contradicted myself. Perhaps something is not clear. But I appreciate your brining up any thing you find unclear or inconsistent.

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Yes, I teach and I learn. All the time. There is no such thing as just a teacher, or just a student. That’s our siloed thinking.

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All our  thinking has been siloed.

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Our skills too.

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Everything, that’s what the beast does.

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I don’t believe in god by the way. I believe there are spirits though, or perhaps better called “subtle energies”.

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Denise Ward, please try restraining yourself; and Im not talking about placing yourself in a straightjacket or performing your own frontal lobotomy; for that you would need to consult with Mr. Krinsk Esq. who could refer you to Bozo The Clown Tierstein Md.

You would agree that before you can call yourself a teacher, you have to demonstrate that you are a good teacher.

One of those ways is showing that you have taught school and you have testimonials from your peer teachers and/or students.

Another way is to provide evidence that you have had a career in building and managing a successful business.

Do you have any such credentials?

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Would you like me to now get back to the importance of what Elon Musk had to say last evening or would you have more interest in dating Trevor Goldberg?

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I don’t use  those credentials. Indeed I find your insistence on them ridiculous. I’m not here to prove myself. What about you? I would prefer to  talk about things  that are going to get us out of this paradigm. Now that’s all I care about. So is that your “agenda” too? If not, I might as well go.

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Fair enough you have always gone by the lords and serfs agenda, so why stay in it. The only way to know if someone makes sense is to talk with them, not to find out what scholastic indoctrination they’ve had. This is elementary I’m sad to say.

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Do you recall writing, “I welcome discussion and even “negative” points or criticisms”?

Yes, we are here to prove ourselves.

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Yes.

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I’m sorry if I sound impatient, I have dinner to prepare and I’m thinking of that.

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I love engaging in conversations that are expansive. But I am a little stretched for time right now and I don’t want to come across as being impatient.

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If you are thinking of something else, then that would make sense of everything you have said here today.

What is for dinner? Are we invited?

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Oh I’d love to invite you! All of you. YOu would love to hear what I am doing!

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We are starting a whole new way of thinking and being from a trailer park!!! We are creating the model for everyone to be able to reproduce for themselves. Everything starts from the center and ripples out – we start from our heart, our own heart and  then the ones we live with and  then the people we live around. It kind of is geographical. But it can also be rippling outward in regards to sharing ideas and thoughts. We are doing the communal thing but everyone is against us. For now. We are building the system that will show them it can be done and when they see how good it is, they will want to come onboard. It all goes like  that, it has to. Rather than some dictator or corporation or government forcing things down our throats.

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Anyway, I am having tofu sausages, mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes and brocolli. Last night I made a gorgeous tomato sauce from our own tomatoes picked fresh! And roasted a red pepper, then put some garlic towards the end so it really tasted garlicky and I added some cayenne pepper and turmeric, just a 1/2 a teaspoon so you couldn’t taste it really, bec, these spices are ultra good for you in many ways. Anyway, can resume later and maybe get to know you all. Sorry to rush off.

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Denise if you don’t mind, I am now going to remove you from this conversation because I am not able to communicate with you, and no one else is jumping in to assist me.

I have taught individuals far less intelligent than you, starting with Trevor Goldberg and The Coupon Clipper is Jack The Ripper Jeffrey Essakow, and as you can see it is only Goldberg speaking and he is not offering much. He is just letting us know that he wishes to remain relevant and I also see that maybe this is the best way he hopes to get a date this Saterday evening.

BTW, tofu is probably not the greatest thing you can feed your internal organs.

Should you decide to share with me your previous success stories in teaching, then just email me, and I will add you back to the conversation.

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All has been quiet on this board for 27 minutes.

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I have though a live group who has been paying the most careful attention to every word.

They also know why you are all so quiet.

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Alec Boswijk is not the only one who does not leave, and would prefer that I mention someone else like David Schmahmann.

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Again, David Schmahmann was in my “lovely” sister Kathy’s high school class, and you see the left side of his face in the back, wearing glasses; and it is my sister’s writing “David” across his throat.

David Schmahmann was banned by the DAAC’s Apartheid Regime and placed “under house arrest” for his anti-Apartheid activities, which didn’t come close to inciting violence; in fact, he was laughed at and applauded by the DAAC officials, headed by virulent anti-Jewish, anti-Israel Harry Oppenheimer given how David and most anti-Apartheid activists both in South Africa as well as abroad misdirected their anger and frustration at this very brutal Apartheid Regime as they only focused on the pitiful officials of the Apartheid Regime, much like the Nazis who were tried at Nuremberg.

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David Schmahman should remember another Jewish boy from Carmel College, Durban, our high Jewish high school.

Michael, following high school, served in the DAAC’s Apartheid Regime’s brutal police force which was the other option to becoming a soldier; but in fact, there was no difference; at least in terms of their brutality and coordination.

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Many served in the South Africa Police Force including, Tracy Tomson’s younger brother Paul and whose elder brother was 1977 World Surfing Champion, Shaun Tomson.

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They will all tell you that they most had a relaxing time surfing during their service for the DAAC’s murderous Apartheid Regime; and they never murdered defenseless black South Africans.

But they worse those most intimidating SA Police Uniforms and when out and about drove death fear into the hearts, minds and souls of the majority black South Africans who kept thinking that their counterparts such as Barrack Obama would eventually save them; at least those naive black South Africans.

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All legitimate black opposition to the DAAC’s Apartheid Regime ended in February 1985 when hypocrite, left wing liberal Senator Ted Kennedy arrived in South Africa, and the last of brave and intelligent black South Africans made their stand.

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Correction: January 1985

https://www.2facetruth.com/the-revolution-in-south-africa-an-analysis/

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The fact that upwards of 99% of Jewish South African boys served in the DAAC’s Apartheid Regime’s military is much more than a disgrace.

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When putting on their uniform, whether it be that of a policeman or soldier, and all you did was march in parades and shoot at the firing range, your numbers counted.

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Those in the DAAC’s Special Forces committing the assassinations were freed up.

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Otherwise, they too would have been in the parades and then all you would expect was love, joy and happiness in the rest of South Africa.

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Look how innocent and friendly they all look today on their FB profile photos.

You couldn’t imagine them as killers, murdering in cold blood, or could you?

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We should have Deborah Sturman Esq. explain how my two elder brothers who hadn’t forgotten that they wore the Apartheid Regime’s military uniform, tore into my mother Zena’s defenseless and dying second husband, Alan Zulman as they accused him of collaborating with the Apartheid Regime because his clothing company, South African Clothing Industries [SACI] which trained many in the clothing industry including my first cousin, Nigel Gevisser and Cliff Benn, supplied the military uniforms of the DAAC’s Apartheid Regime.

Pretty bad to be tearing after an old man dying of cancer of the bowl as his feces drips down his legs while Zulman battled unsuccessfully to make it to the toilet in his and my mother’s Netanya, Israel apartment; and Zulman’s crimes pale in comparison with those weaing the uniform.

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Yes, speak up Deborah Sturman Esq. 

You are supposed to be protecting my mother Zena and you know how my 3 elder siblings behaved towards Zulman in his own home as my brothers vultured him.

They felt that they were entitled to his estate.

Their guilt they knew was far worse than Zulman’s.

That is the nature of the human beast.

Sturman you have failed to do your job because you too are all about the money.

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I never gave Michael’s last name, but David Schmahmann knew who I was talking about.

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Michael Sagorin while out on patrol in the whites only suburbs of Durban in his SA Police uniform; meaning he was not in a parade to help raise money for Red Cross officials to supply Nazi Germany with the DAAC’s diamonds out of the Belgian Congo

[see chapter 9 of The D I book, DIAMONDS FOR HITLER]

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encountered a young black kid stealing a motorcycle helmet that had been left by its owner on the motorcycle.

The motorcycle and the helmet belonged to “banned” David Schmahmann.

After grabbing the black kid by the scruff of his neck, Michael Sagorin knocked on the front door of the Schmahmann’s house and David answered.

David recognized that not only was the kid stealing “bread money” but once arrested, and we are talking about whites only residential area, his fate was sealed.

To his credit David pleaded with this Jewish Kapo to let the kid go. 

Sagorin refused; arrested the kid and took him off to jail. 

According Sagorin, and as best I recall, David Schmahann showed up on the court date, and pleaded for the judge to go lenient on the black kid; but the judge argued, “The law is the law” and the black kid was sent to jail.

The fact that David Schmahmann may have been the best of the very best I knew; and the rest all shit, starting with those who wore the Nazi uniforms which people like Alan Zulman did not insist they wear, does not mean that David Schmahmann is incapable today of speaking out against the DAAC.

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Alec Boswijk knows this very important and interesting information is getting out there, and does not want to hear about it from someone else.

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Again, he is not alone.

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Who to trust?

You know you can’t trust the bad people even if they are bribing you.

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The consequences of the DAAC not being prosecuted at Nuremberg have resulted in the killing of my mother Zena, and each of you quiet carry that responsibility.

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If you didn’t don a South African Apartheid Regime’s miltiary or police uniform, you cannot be blamed for anything other than failing to be curious.

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Once, however you know that the DAAC should have been the first prosecuted at Nuremberg, you are obligated to share the information as quickly as possible.

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Note the correction of an earlier posting:

Back to Denise Ward. DW does not provide any background on herself which shows that she has led in any way, shape or form. She also doesn’t show that she is any less ignorant than the rest of you were until you became acquainted with the Diamond Invention Game [DIG] well described in Epstein’s The D I book, and then you chose to capitalize on, no different to my 3 elder siblings and their hangerons.

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And it was evening and it was morning –

The sixth day. And the heaven and the earth were finished and all their host. And on the seventh day God had finished his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and he hallowed it, because he rested thereon from all his work which God had created and made.

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September 9, 2018

9/9/18, 6:20 PM

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9/11/18, 5:20 PM

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Tellinger, I don’t know who you are, and before I remove your video and possibly you as well from the ATOH conversation, as I have matters of great importance to focus on including exposing all the hypocrites, and the religious no less difficult to figure out, because they are the easiest, please explain to me why God didn’t entrust you with the wisdom to figure out, without my help how void of logic is the way we evaluate the health of the economy?

BTW, did you notice how auditor Jeff Malatskey wife, Estelle just bolted for the exits?

Are you keen to hear the question I put to Jeff Malatskey back on July 16, 2002, which had him go “ape shit”, and it was a question right up his alley, as it was centered around the valuing of corporations, which is his bread and butter, apart from waking up each day dreading the thought of having to explain to someone such as yourself, the impact on all audited financial statements as a result of the DAAC’s [De Beers-Anglo American Corporation] use of their untraceably, never inventoried, exclusive diamond currency in “off balance sheet” transcations?

How about my follow up, 7 days later, July 23, to Malatskey’s sudden silence, surely that would interest you as it would anyone interested in money?

If God isn’t your money, why have you been silent all this time?

Why aren’t you addressing the teachings of Epstein’s, The Diamond Invention book; instead you hit us with this distraction?

Had you and ugly Cynthia Petit not interrupted the flow, I would have followed up with Elon Musk and his mother Maye to stand tall; and you know Elon Musk is always able to change his mind and do the right thing, until such opportunity evaporates.

So I remain most optimistic, not because of my faith in Elon Musk who is the best we have seen in well over 100 years, if not since the beginning this animal human beast began mostly warring and destroying the environment; rather it is the logic, the science proves that numbers-mathematics is absolute proof of HER existence; and so how come you religious people keep missing the boat?

Furthermore, you would agree “God” is a Higher Energy Source [HER] even if you yourself are as fat as a pig, indicative of a self-indulgent person who can only be trusted for being lame and mean, much the same as most on this socially uncomfortable, but most revealing FB conversation.

Fat diseased talkative cell [FDTC] humans are not the only humans who are lame and mean spirited; neither of my 3 elder siblings fall into the category of obese, but of course that can all change; and my “lovely” sister Kathy has this cabbage patch face which keeps getting wider like her square body, and that still doesn’t mean my 3 elder siblings have trusted each other more ever since they decided to do harm to my mother Zena.

You should be able, if you are healthy to feel the electrical tension increasing between my siblings, their spouses and not to leave out malice ridden Israeli liar-lawyer, Ayala Weisel ratting out my 3 siblings when the prosecutors decide that they cannot ignore the weight of evidence against Weisel et al.

In the meantime of course HER continues to rule.

And please send me examples of the FDT cell exceptions.

FDTCs are just easier to observe and their negative energy is also released in their negative attitude towards everything, all the while being huge gossipers, wouldn’t you agree?

FDT Cells are principally repugnant to themselves which explains why they love hating those with beautiful bodies and faces.

What can you tell us about yourself, starting with, do you consider yourself wasteful to the environment?

Do you eat red meat, brown meat, white meat, fish, lobster, chicken and ham; and if so do you think that explains why you think you have or don’t have a good sense of humor?

Again, I have important work left to do, and I just want to know what makes you tick?

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PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THIS LOVELY GROUP ! THANKS 

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Tellinger, did Jesus forsake you, or have you given up the gig?

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PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THIS LOVELY GROUP ! THANKS 

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You can remove yourself…

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YOU ARE SUCH A KIND AND LOVING PERSON.

I’M SO GLAD I ONLY GOT TO MEET JUST ONE PERSON LIKE YOU.

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Notice how quickly Tellinger TN just hid.

This is an important day, the day before my “lovely” sister Kathy’s 65th birthday, and nor is she or her husband David or their money relationship Israeli lawyer, the imposter guardian of my mother Zena getting any younger or no less importantly more trusting of each other.

Much to celebrate today, which I will be getting to later, and you can see that Janine Krok, Hilton Wolman, and Pault Everett Roan have opted out of the conversation; and while they shouldn’t be forgotten, nor should we focus any less on Noam Chomsky who was just added.

It is also good that Martin Golblatt, a relatively close cousin and good high school cricketeer, is still with us having added him exactly 4 hours ago, right before posting an informative piece of “human history” which is not your typical human interest story, up on his sister in law’s FB wall; not to mention, Kim Goldblatt, who left us on Sept. 12 at 12:40am Calif. time, has yet to remove those postings; and nor has she commented as you can see.

https://www.2facetruth.com/huge-event/

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September 23, 2018

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Trevor Tucker is my second cousin. He has yet to “unfriend” me on FB, but that should soon follow, or maybe not. 

His head is currently spinning.

He was provided a brief, but articulate and accurate history of our Jewish South African family, and he is feeling a lot of pain in his head. Should any of you like to see what I shared with him, which was pretty much identical to what I sent earlier to Joel Friedman who is from the same class at Carmel College high school as Hilton Wolman, Neil Gould, Michael Schaffer, Samuel Schaffer and Jeffrey Essakow, I will be happy to send it to you before it is loaded up on the 2facetruth.com BLOG.

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9/24/18, 3:34 PM

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I have a little time on my hands while waiting for a few things to “soak in”; and that includes the use of vinegar to remove a very slight build up on the elements of a tankless water heater which hasn’t required any cleaning since its installation 5 years ago, thanks to the very clean well water that we have been mostly drinking for the past 16 years; and which I highly recommend even for those of you who have already lost the “meaning of life” because your bad actions prevented such a wonderful discovery.

I will now share with you my entire dialogue with second cousin, Trevor Tucker, and at any time feel free to comment, or simply opt out of this ATOH conversation while never forgetting that it is never a good choice being in denial even if you are currently making lots of money which has you thinking that much more about the money, which is the dumbest way to judge anyone given how there cannot be anything more poorly valued than the valuing of money and therefore all that it acquires is suspect.

You can all also figure out two other important elements; first, it is not a good thing to be in my sister Kathy’s “corner” unless she is sending you a piece of her and her husband David Danziger’s birthday cake with a note that you are going to be remembered in their wills because why else would you have anything to do with these DAAC sic characters; the same with my brothers Melvin and Neil, and their succulents.

How fortunate that Kathy and David can save on candles as they both celebrate their birthdays today, unless the number of candles are a combination of both their ages; and so why don’t all you two-faced wish them both publicly a happy birthday.

Second, the 864 independent views of Zena The Lady’s Speech with no one commenting other than me, does not mean all those views are like water over a duck’s back.

Not to mention, Youtube allows you to keep returning using the same computer without increasing the count; and always only fearful, unless that so telling 9 minute and 24 second video along with the other 28 have been removed; and still the truth is that which does not change.

Being just as silent here when not lashing out with irrelevant stuff in order to distract and at the same time help you feel that you can’t be either totally worthless and/or totally stupid, correlates well with the silence on Zena The Lady’s Speech and all the other videos of my mother Zena whose importance you disgusting people help solidify.

The logic-truth explains that you are all paying most careful attention and that would include Israeli liar-lawyer Ayala Weisel who once she has killed off my mother Zena is still going to have to contend with not only the law, but my sister Kathy who also knows that it is only money, thieving and lying that binds them, which as you all know does not make for an everlasting trusting relationship, especially when things are so fluid.

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You [Trevor Tucker & Gary Gevisser] are now connected on Messenger.

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Gary:

Trevor, do you recall how we are related?

What is your email?

I’m close to finishing a book that I have been working on a long time, and it is events that have taken place in just the past 24 hours here on FB which has speeded things up.

I also think we may have communicated in the past, and may not have had a full meeting of the minds?

Today 1:52AM

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Hi, were u born on 24th March 1957?

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You are my 2nd cousin 

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Was that a happy face mixed in with a wink?

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Good man cuz.

Im going to now add you to my group chat ATOH [A test of humanity] where you will see amongst others my two elder siblings Kathy and Melvin.

Below are my communications with my new FB friend, Joel Friedman who was 3 years ahead of me at our high school, Carmel College:

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Joel, were you at Carmel, which class? What do you do?

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Yes quite right I was at Carmel I was in the same year as Hilton Wolman ,Neil Gould ,Michael Schaffer  and Samuel Schaffer I left in STD 7 my family immigrated to Israel we came back to SA round about 1969 and I have lived in Jhb most of my life lived in Israel between 1978 and 1982  I was in the motor business for the last 30 years ,I don’t know why but the name Moshal Gevisser rings a bell I am sure it was a big business in Durban but I really don’t have a clue ,what about you ?

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These photos above begin to tell a story that bothers pretty much everyone including my 3 elder siblings.

They come from a 24 page booklet produced in 1960 commemorating the 50th anniversary of The Moshal Gevisser Group of Companies [1910-1970] which DAAC [De Beers-Anglo American Corporation] operative Natie Kirsh acquired in 1969-1970  for significantly less than fair market value and immediately “asset stripped”, turning him into an instant billionaire; and all he had going for himself prior was showing initiative to bribe the King of Swaziland to grant him the Swaziland maize concession with of course the approval of DAAC, who controlled 85% of the capitalization of the Johannesburg Stock Exchange; and the remaining 15% knew who was the “boss”, and were very compliant.

Of course all resistance ended with the demise of hugely successful Moshal Gevisser; and not much reporting in the media because when you control 100% of the economy of the mineral richest country in the world it simply means the media along with the politicians and judiciary are also all bought.

How’s that for a quick summation of the modern day history of South Africa?

Let me tell you very quickly what happened in Israel when the DAAC defeated Israel in the late 70s.

http://edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap16.htm

Do you want to know how very dumb Jeffrey Essakow suddenly got rich in real estate here in southern California?

Notice that only Sam Schaffer who is “best friends” with J. Essakow is the only one who is FB friends with me.

You would also understand why none of them have shared this most important knowledge with you.

You know knowledge is power.

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The last photo [ACME TIMBER INDUSTRIES] from the 24 page booklet introduces you to the most powerful person in the world. German-American Charles W. Engelhard Jr. [1917-1971] became the majority shareholder of our ACME TIMBER INDUSTRIES in 1956 after he booted out the previous majority shareholders, the Rothschild family which first of all tells you the true power of the Rothschilds which does not mean the Rothschilds are good, or anything close.

Engelhard Jr. who is the central character of scholarly Edward J. Epstein’s epic 1978 non-fiction book, The Diamond Invention, chapter 18, THE AMERICAN CONSPIRACY

http://edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap18.htm

first took a small interest in ACME TIMBER in 1951, soon after beginning his travels to South Africa in order to capitalize on the vulnerability of the German-South African Oppenheimer family who should have been the first and last prosecuted at Nuremberg

http://edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap9.htm

which allowed him to gauge very accurately who were the weak links in my immediate family.

https://www.2facetruth.com/david-gevisser/

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David Gevisser [1926-2009], my father Bernie’s

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keep reading; it will all make perfect sense, unless you are in denial – it is all about our family and “friends”.

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Gary:

The obituary showing a photo of my father Bernie, I placed in the newspapers.

Of course you have the time, but your mind wants to believe a narrative that is grossly false; still I will provide you, so that you have a record, the rest of what I sent Joel Friedman which is already being broadcasted; and you are now part of it all.

Recapping:

David Gevisser, my father’s first cousin, was the biggest weak link, along with his favorite uncle, Sol “Little King” Moshal [1894-1986]

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As you find yourself not able to put down The D I book, because it is the most interesting book every written, not only does it all make a lot of sense but you can imagine the enormous political clout of his “male heir”; namely my “lucky uncle” David Gevisser who played a pivotal role in me sitting for a year long entrance exam that was directly supervised by Harry Oppenheimer

http://edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap1.htm

which began soon after I immigrated to the States in March 1978, arriving in Chicago on March 17th, one week before my 21st birthday.

You should read slowly chapter 18 because it makes very bizarre reference to Engelhard Jr. having “no male heirs” without explaining why something so irrelevant even gets a mention.

You would also have needed to acquire a great deal of knowledge about the modus operandi of the DAAC before demonstrating to Harry Oppenheimer that you had what it takes to eventually take over from him because he knew that his only son Nicholas

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was not very bright; which is not to suggest that Nick Oppenheimer is as stupid as J. Essakow and his younger brother Roy who only has Israel traitor and terrorist financier, Marc Rich to thank for Roy and Jeffrey having anything more than a pot to pee in.

Take a look at the 4 articles/letters of mine that were published in the Jerusalem Post; the first on Feb 1. 2001, 12 days after the treasonous pardon which had the support of top Israeli officials, including highly decorated soldier, Prime Minister Ehud Barak.

https://www.2facetruth.com/category/letters-published-by-the-jerusalem-post/

Suffice to say my mother Zena is being made to pay a hefty price for her support of me doing the right thing; namely exposing the DAAC and all their Jewish Kapo-sellout supporters including the likes of Helen Suzman, Joe Slovo and Tony Leon to name but 3 politicians who talked a “good game” but there cannot be any good when you are talking total shit.

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My mother is in fact paying with her life.

When I arrived in Israel on September 21, 2016 to follow through on my mother’s wishes as well as investigate the chicanery that my 3 elder siblings were up, I immediately began filming my most beautiful and totally on top of it mother.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL4qdY7ESzE

Notice that there are now going on 900 independent views of The Lady’s Speech which I filmed the morning of September 22, 2016, and no comments other than mine.

Remember the silence that followed when “The Maze King” Kirsh waltzed into Durban and gobbled up 60 year old Moshal Gevisser which was continuing to grow from strength to strength, and there was a new generation starting to come of age who could run the multi-national trading conglomerate a whole lot better than those being paid to run it into the ground, well it has simply continued.

Not to be disappointed since you know deafening silences speak the most volume.

In the very next instant all this “play acting” – that has been going on since the turn of the last century, and taken countless unnecessary lives while making us humans that much less sensitive; and the 9 million soldiers killed in the first world war and the 6 million of our Jewish brothers and sisters murdered in The Holocaust is only the tip of the iceberg – now it can all melt away leaving all the FOOLS NAMES, FOOLS FACES IN PUBLIC PLACES like J. Essakow totally naked.

And if it takes just a little longer, still it is not the end of the world.

Each of us has our destiny, and how we play the cards we are dealt does not only do us good in this lifetime but the rewards can only get greater in the next lifetime when we meet up once again only with the best of us, starting with my mom and dad.

My book D-Money Lie is in fact being published in real time with correspondence such as this; and feel free to share with the world, starting with our mutual FB friends.

Feel free to ask me your questions.

All the best

Gary

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The lady’s speech – My mother Zena Gevisser – Netanya, Israel – September 22, 2016, 11:33 am

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