Twister minds avoiding price fixing of the monies
Johan Driesen created the group.
June 9, 2025
2:35 PM PST
Johan
So mister @Gary Gevisser
2:38 PM
Johan
Why do you find it necessary to talk about mister @Philip van Nedervelde behind his back? What ever your differences are why don’t you talk them out like adults?? I haven’t seen mister van Nedervelde do such ridicules thing as you just did. Like I said for a 68 you act like a toddler..
2:43 PM
GG
Liar @Johan Driesen, it is a lie to say that I’ve been speaking behind @Philip van Nedervelde ‘s back.
How do I add others to the conversation or do you want to control that?
Remember my conversation with you began at 11:12 AM PST, Monday June 9,
https://www.2facetruth.com/driesen/
with the following which I also shared with van Nedervelde:
Would you like to see my dialogue with our mutual fb friend, Philip van Nedervelde, the Dutch intellectual midget who has an overinflated ego, the result of his lack of accomplishment, but still convinced his Cambridge University English stint will get him through trying to conquer other low self esteem individuals?
Just shared with van Nedervelde:
Would you like to see my advice to our 83 odd mutual fb friends on how best to stay out of your weak orbit?
2:44 PM
GG
Where do you get off saying that I’m talking behind Floundering “Flounder’s” [sic] back?
@Johan Driesen, are you going to allow me to add the others to the group, or are you going to do it?
Obviously, your trust in each other is fast waning.
It is now 2:47 PM much later in Europe.
Why don’t you get some sleep and let me add the others?
2:49 PM
Johan
Do what you think is necessary to make your point…
2:49 PM
GG
Your point was to add everyone. You seem confused?
Johan
Why should I get some sleep? It’s almost 6 am where I am
2:50 PM
GG
Why are you delaying adding everyone?
Do you feel bad that you accused me of talking behind van Nedervelde’s back?
No I wanted you and @Philip van Nedervelde here. You are the one who wanted ‘everybody’ here. I am starting to see the problem you have already
2:51 PM
Johan
You can invite everyone here you want, mister @Gary Gevisser
2:52 PM
Johan
Johan
Where are they? It’s your idea, to bring everyone here!
2:52 PM
GG
Wrong. @Philip van Nedervelde and I have talked it out. I want all our mutual fb friends to hear that dialogue, why not?
Johan
And no, you were talking behind @Philip‘s back.
2:53 PM
Johan
2:53 PM
Johan [replied to “Wrong. @Philip van Nedervelde and I have talked it out …]
Then add all the mutual friends that you send the same message as you have send me
2:54 PM
GG
Ok, @Johan Driesen we will add our dialogue once I have uploaded my dialogue
https://www.2facetruth.com/van-nedervelde/
with van Nedervelde.
I do see now that I can add members. I will do that as well.
Johan
Oooooooh… you and @Philip van Nedervelde have talked it out??? Then why not send that conversation to all our mutual friends?? In which you have talked it out???
2:56 PM
Johan
In this group @Gary Gevisser, you can add anybody you like. Ok!
2:57 PM
Johan
So and then I hope this bullshit you started can be over once and for all!
2:57 PM
GG
I am in the process of grabbing my dialogue with van Nedervelde.
Johan
You do what you feel like doing. I will bring my son to school!
2:58 PM
So I will be looking here again in an hour or so…
2:59 PM
GG
Below is a list of van Nedervelde’s and my fb friends, which you can also add; so speeding up the process.
3 PM
Johan
And @Gary, before you feel like sending those kind of messages around, sit at a table together with your opponent and have a beer, preferably a Belgian one…
3PM
Johan
You started this shit, so you add whoever you want!
3PM
GG
GG
Remember, I have no problem if all 83 odd, including you @Johan Driesen decide that you have had enough, and unfriend me.
I wouldn’t want anyone who is a friend of van @Philip van Nedervelde to be a friend of mine.
Johan
It seems that you are crawling back and finding excuses to add people to this conversation…
Hmmm
3:01 PM
GG
No, crawling back.
Let the world see our dialogue.
Do you have a problem with that?
Johan
Ok then. I will be bringing my son to school and I’ll be watching
I have no problem with anything
3:02 PM
GG
That sounds good.
I will then begin with adding all 82 other mutual fb friends and those who don’t allow me to add them, I will be unfriending them; just to be clear.
3:04 PM
Johan
3:04 PM
GG
Following the addition, I will download my conversation with @Philip van Nedervelde.
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3:17 PM
GG
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3:18 PM
GG
It is now 3:18 PM PST [California time]. I will be adding now my dialogue with @Philip van Nedervelde
3:27 PM
GG
GG
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My conversations with @Philip van Nedervelde on fb messaging date back to September 10, 2024.
While the most important conversations began yesterday, at 9:31 AM Calif. time, all our conversations will be an addendum to my forthcoming book, which I first began thinking about in earnest, once I began an intense “military intelligence” training with Mossad head, David Ben Gurion [Oct 16, 1886 – Dec. 1, 1973] soon after meeting Ben Gurion for the first time on November 1, 1972, outside his modest home on his kibbutz, Sde Boker, Negev Desert, Israel, which was 3 months to the day after I arrived in Israel, again, September 1, 1972, for a 4 month Ulpan-Gadna training.
To mention in passing, 4 days later, September 5, 1972, the massacring of 11 defenseless Israeli athletes at the Munich Summer Olympic Games to[ok] place.
Not to mention, my intimate family relationship with Ben Gurion goes back 3 generations to my great maternal grandmother, Nechie Becker Bardash [1874-1943]
who was born 12 years before Ben Gurion, in the same tiny village of Plonsk, White Russia-Poland.
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Notice how active is everyone, including @Philip van Nedervelde [PVN] who should be patient and let me upload our dialogue that I believe is important for the world to hear.
Edited
Hi everyone! Feel free to ignore, unfriend, block, report, and ban Gary Gevisser. He’s a sad old troll with obvious psychological problems who recently picked me as one of his newest targets for trolling and cyber bullying. It looks like I have rubbed him the wrong way and stepped on one of his long toes. I’ve unfriended him some time ago, but he keeps stalking and trolling me and seems intent on defamation and slander.
I don’t know him well at all, but in my limited experience of him he turned out to be a toxic waste of time.
My recommendation: ignore and unfriend.
All my best, as always — Philip
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]3:38 PM
GG
As everyone can see, @Philip van Nedervelde is understandably very nervous.
Remember, he and I have been speaking since September 10 of last year, and he hasn’t advised any of you to unfriend me.
To mention little of my learning of the pivotal role that the German-South African Oppenheimer family who have controlled the world’s drilling industry from the turn of the last century, played in the arming of Nazi Germany, had me deciding to put aside my long desire to follow in the footsteps of my Jewish Allied Fighter Bomber Pilot father, Bernie Gevisser [18 October 1923 – 27 August 2012]
3:39
PVN
Hi everyone! Feel free to ignore, unfriend, block, report, and ban Gary Gevisser.
He’s a sad old troll with obvious psychological problems who recently picked me as one of his newest targets for trolling and cyber bullying. It looks like I have rubbed him the wrong way and stepped on one of his long toes. I’ve unfriended him some time ago, but he keeps stalking and trolling me and seems intent on defamation and slander.
I don’t know him well at all, but in my limited experience of him he turned out to be a toxic waste of time.
My recommendation: ignore and unfriend.
All my best, as always — Philip
3:39 PM
GG
and learn everything there was to know about the German-SA Oppenheimers, and that would be best accomplished by joining their DAAC [De beers-Anglo American Corporation] banking mining monopoly.
That meant of course, having to keep my mouth shut and get an economics university degree. In early 1978, when just beginning my post graduate university studies, the patriarch of the family, Harry Oppenheimer [1908 -2000] recruited me. After a year long orientation, I joined the DAAC at their most important “listening post” on US soil, Codiam Inc.
3:35 PM
Johan
Johan
@Gary, what is the point of all these history issues? Come to the point. It’s becoming boring. You begin to sound like most of these Jewish people who still can’t get over the whole Hitler issue.
3:46 PM
Johan
How about al the genocide these days committed by the Jews in Gaza???
3:46 PM
GG
The record should note; very nervous @Philip van Nedervelde felt the need to repeat his lies, as if you are all deaf.
Now I will upload, @Philip van Nedervelde‘s and my dialogue beginning yesterday:
3:47 PM
Alexey Immorta Potapov
WTF is this place ? )
3:48 PM
Alexey Immorta Potapov [replied to “How about al the genocide these days committed by the Jews in Gaza???]
It’s not committed by “Jews” but right wing Nazis ), not all Jews are right wing or nazis
3:48 PM
Johan
Johan
Johan
3:50 PM
Johan [replied to, “It’s not committed by “Jews” but right wing Nazis ), not all Jews are right wing or nazis”]
Let the record show that Gary says that Netanyahu is a right wing Nazi…
3:50 PM
GG
@Johan Driesen, why don’t you hold your horses, be patient, let me upload the dialogue with @Philip van Nedervelde and any questions you have about anything in the world, whether it be ants or the contrived war in Gaza I will do my best to address.
Johan
Edited
Then upload it already.. nobody is interested in your history book
3:57 PM
GG
Sunday, June 8, 80th birthday of Harry Oppenheimer’s son, Nicholas Oppenheimer [June 8, 1945 – ] who was born on the same day, my paternal grandmother, Kate Gevisser [c. 1895] passed away, which 1 month and 16 days after my father returned to South Africa having completed his 71st miraculous dive-bombing mission after heavily defended northern Italy, I uploaded this 9 minute and 24 second video of my highly secretive British-English mother Zena [30 May 1929 – ] which I filmed at my mother’s second home in Netanya, Israel, the morning of September 22, 2016, having arrived the night before from Spain, with my beautiful French-Canadian wife, Marie Dion and our world traveler doggy Mango:
The lady’s speech – My mother Zena Gevisser – Netanya, Israel – September 22, 2016, 11:33 am
@Johan Driesen, your interruption[s] mean you are beginning to understand why @Philip van Nedervelde would engage for many hours with me following the upload of the Lady’s Speech.
Bear in mind, you want to know about the war in Gaza; you are speaking with someone who knows a great deal about that war, and the rest of the ongoing wars and chaos which profit the Wall Street crowd.
GG
At 5:21 PM yesterday, 8 hours and 10 minutes after sharing The Lady’s Speech link, @Philip van Nedervelde replied:
??? Why did you share this link?
At 5:44 PM, I responded: You understood why. You are simply in a state of freeze, frozen in deep space, on your way to Mars.
A minute later, I posted up screenshots of our mutual fb friends.
At 5:48 PM, I continued: Let’s bring in our 83odd mutual fb friends.
Those who remain my fb friends as well as those who leave will perfectly understand you[r] total and complete anxiety.
Don’t you now wish you had simply zipped your lips?
Of course you do.
Sit back close your eyes and imagine our conversation going viral as it should.
At 5:50 PM, I followed up: Since you are thinking that you will shoot back “you are nuts”; let me explain, you were nuts to write to me exposing your low intellect.
At 6:57 PM, @Philip van Nedervelde shot back:
“You are a certifiable and very stable genius. Pray dazzle me with your superior intellect. Feel free to rub it in. Get your dopamine supply. Come on, you know you want to”.
A minute later, he continued:
“You only seem nuts to people who don’t get you, who don’t see you.
I see you.”
At 7 PM, he continues:
“But due to my low intellect there inevitably are a few things you will have to clarify, elucidate, explicate, and enlighten me on. Some things you do and say are just too far above my puny mind to comprehend without the aid of your phenomenal light”
At 7:02, @Philip van Nedervelde continues:
So, pray tell, what is your end-game? What is this all about? What overarching goal justifies so much effort from your off-the-charts superlative intellect?
Johan
Again you are making assumptions, @Gary…
4:13 PM
GG
It is now 4:09 PM, and nervous @Johan Driesen jumps in, interrupting the upload.
@Johan Driesen, by interrupting, you are in fact helping the others, including those not members of this group which you started, [see] the importance of my dialogue with @Philip van Nedervelde who if he believed I was this “nutcase” he wants you all to believe, then he would have long blocked me on fb messaging.
Again, I am not relying simply on this group to help get out my very important dialogue with @Philip van Nedervelde.
Try @Johan Driesen to remain calm throughout.
[You added Errol Graham Musk to the group.]
4:17 PM
GG
It is now 4:13 PM. I decided to add Elon Musk’s father, @Errol Graham Musk to the group; and that should stem the flow of the nervous, those wanting to better understand what is going on right now in the world of politics-economics which is governed by war.
[Edit: the original text read: … those not wanting to better …]
Not to mention, to the best of my knowledge, Elon Musk’s 150+ IQ electromechanical engineer father is still in Moscow at the behest of President Putin who you can see seated below next to Nicholas Oppenheimer
I will now take a short break before resuming the upload of my conversation with @Philip van Nedervelde; opening up the floor for anyone who has questions or wishes to comment about this very important photo that was taken in Cape Town, South Africa on September 5, 2006, the 9th anniversary of a catastrophic ambush of Israel’s most elite Shayetet-Flotilla 13 commando unit which resulted in the death of 11 commandos including the unit commander, resulting, most likely, from an interception of radio communications between the IAF and the unit.
4:27 PM
GG
Not to mention, while @Errol Graham Musk is on a whirlwind “trop” [sic] to India, Moscow and Abu Dhabi, I am certain, given his knowledge of my background, he reads all my writings.
Moreover, while I have no independent verification that the @Peter Thiel, I just added is Elon Musk’s partner in PayPal from where the DAAC’s Palantir “picks up”, given President Trump’s most trusted advisor’s closeness to Mark Zuckerberg, these communications will be reaching Peter Thiel who supports, “Competition is for losers” in real time.
4:34 PM
Back to the dialogue with @Philip van Nedervelde.
At 6:36 AM today, in response to @Philip van Nedervelde‘s, “… your off-the-charts superlative intellect?” I replied:
Do you see the “Hand of God” in both your looks and duplicity?
At 9:34 AM, @Philip van Nedervelde responded:
Maybe. But let’s say I don’t. Do adultsplain it to me as if I were a 4 year old, daddy-Gary-the-theologian.
(I noticed how stung you get when you are presented with a mirror of your own unlovely attitudes and demeanor. Careful now. I told you that I see you. Your move, Gary-the-stable-genius.)
Johan
Oh my!!! You mister @Gary Gevisser must be a total nutcase! You have been making here already so many assumptions on why I said this or that not understanding a single thing and I now completely understand why mister @Philip van Nedervelde must have become fed up with you!! You assume this and that… putting words in everybody’s mouth!! You don’t even have to continue this explanatio! I already completely understand why a man like mister @Philip van Nedervelde got fed up with you!!! You are spinning up ideas in your mind while you don’t even know people!!! I think you belong in psychiatric hospital mr. @Gary Gevisser !!! Something is very wrong with you!!!
4:40 PM
GG
@Johan Driesen, again you show that you are no less focused than @Philip van Nedervelde, as you feel the need to shoot off your mouth, in an effort to distract yourself.
Even those who don’t want to hear the extent of their brainwashing, can understand your game.
Remember, if I was such a “nutcase”, why hasn’t @Philip van Nedervelde blocked me much earlier?
Johan
You are a storyteller, not a facts teller… I don’t know what happened in your life but you sound like so many Jewish people who are still ranting about what happens to their late grandmother during WWII
4:42 PM
GG
And why mr. @Philip van Nedervelde didn’t block you is simply because he has manners. Blocking people is what idiots do when they can’t win an argument or are afraid to lose one…
4:43 PM
Johan [replied to @Johan Driesen, are you finished with your ignorant, anti-Semitic rant?]
Again: assumptions !!
4:43 PM
GG
@Johan Driesen, are you ready for me to continue the upload?
Johan
I have nothing against Jewish people. It’s only idiots I can’t stand, nomatter what colour or believe they represent
4:45 PM
GG
@Johan Driesen, are you ready for me to continue the upload of my dialogue with @Philip van Nedervelde who could have stopped at any time?
Johan
You sir belong in a specialised hospital!
4:47 PM
Johan
Go on, continue and make an even greater fool of yourself!
4:47 PM
GG
@Johan Driesen, you know that, even if you were a certified psychiatrist, would be guilty of malpractice.
GG
I will continue when you, @Johan Driesen have assured me that you have at least taken a deep breath.
Johan
Well, you don’t need to continue since the point was to figure out why the issue between you and mister @Philip van Nedervelde existed, and that is obviously clear for everybody now.
4:53 PM
Johan
So anyway. It comes to this: you assume too much… you think that you know what others think or will do and you assume you know their motives…
4:55 PM
Johan
While doing that you either intentionally or by stupid mistake you tend to make a lot of people upset and angry…
4:56 PM
Johan
At this moment I really do not know yet if you are either a complete idiot, an attention seeker, or ready for a psychiatric hospital…
4:58 PM
Johan
Maybe there are a few other options but you are absolutely not competent in having a decent conversation with scientists or mathematicians of the caliber of mr @Philip van Nedervelde. It’s logical that you would only be a cause of great irritation
4:59 PM
Johan
On top of that you don’t have the thick skin to withstand their replies on the idiocy that leaves your mouth…
5:03 PM
Johan
I see no further need to take this conversation any further, mr. @Gary Gevisser . I have the answer to the question I had
5:04 PM
Johan
Everything is clear to me now
5:06 PM
Johan
But understand this: if you want to defend yourself in argumenting against someone… it is only between you and that person! No need to drag dozens of people into your argument…
[PVN chirps 
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]5:06 PM
Johan
That is the nice thing about an argument: people are allowed to disagree!
5:07 PM
Johan
Edited
All the people you dragged into this conversation are allowed to disagree with me or with you and many don’t care and already left! Isn’t that great!!
5:08 PM
PVN
Hi everyone!
Feel free to royally ignore, unfriend, block, and report Gary Gevisser, the guy who invited you to this chat.
He’s a sad old troll with obvious psychological problems who recently picked me as one of his newest targets for trolling and cyber bullying. It looks like I have rubbed him the wrong way and stepped on one of his long toes. I’ve unfriended him some time ago, but he keeps stalking and trolling me and seems intent on defamation and slander.
I don’t know him well at all, but in my limited experience of him he turned out to be an unlovely, unpleasant, and toxic waste of time.
My recommendation: ignore everything he says or shows, unfriend him, and leave this chat to deprive him of an audience to annoy.
All my best, as always — Philip
[Johan Dreisen and David Mudcat Calderon respond with 
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]Johan
But let me tell you this: you are 65 years old? Take it easy… in the end: nobody gives a damn fuck!
[David Mudcat Calderon left the group.]
5:16 PM
Johan
QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM
5:16 PM
GG
@Johan Driesen, you have been on a filibuster for 15 minutes, and then also, increasingly nervous @Philip van Nedervelde had to repeat his mantra.
Actually, the people do give a fuck and you just want to keep doubling down.
David Mudcat Calderon just left.
What is most important is that DMC, you @Johan Driesen, @Philip van Nedervelde, and the others who have left, will trust yourselves and each other that much less.
At 10:24 AM, and it is now 5:11 PM @Philip van Nedervelde, replied:
If they’ve known me long enough to appreciate me as I am, they’ll see through your nasty game and laugh you out of the room.
If they haven’t and they act on your malicious “advice”, they were not long term relationship material anyway. So, good riddance, and thank you for pruning my social graph of dead weight.
It is really amazing that your very stable genius doesn’t understand that this is not a social game that you can really win at, Gary. I had hoped for better from you. Greater sophistication and discernment, commensurate with your evidently off-the-charts superior intellect. Ah well, yet another disappointment to add to that pile.
A minute later, 10:25 AM,
PVN:
We did indeed, thank you very much. 
11:07 AM GG:
Hypocrite, intellectual midget deluxe, you never called it a nasty game when you were singing my praise.
I’m consistent in denouncing you.
It is tough at your advanced age to deal with the monies all price fixed; something you should have figured out long before going to Cambridge to improve your English.
Now be a good Dutch boy and fuck off, unless you want me to keep you appraised of their reactions.
Btw, can you list those who you believe know you best?
12:01 PM GG:
Here’s a teaser: GG to John Sakowicz [JS]
11:10 AM Calif time, Monday, June 9, day after Nicholas Oppenheimer’s 80th birthday:
Would you like to see my dialogue with our mutual fb friend, Philip van Nedervelde, the Dutch intellectual midget who has an overinflated ego, the result of his lack of accomplishment, but still convinced his Cambridge University English stint will get him through trying to conquer other low self esteem individuals?
Just shared with van Nedervelde:
Would you like to see my advice to our 83 odd mutual fb friends on how best to stay out of your weak orbit?
11:11 AM
JS
???????????
GG
It’s a yes or a no.
11:12 AM
JS
I don’t have the fainest idea of what you’re talking about.
11:23 AM
GG
You can see that I speak clearly. If you know van Nedervelde, you would surely want to see our dialogue.
Btw, when I was still 20 years of age, and just beginning my post graduate economics studies, that included tutoring first year students, not interested in fluff, I was recruited by German-South African Harry Oppenheimer, the richest and most powerful person on the planet; and after a year orientation, I officially joined his banking-mineral monopoly DAAC (De beers-Anglo American Corporation) in early spring 1979 when I was still 21 years old.
Of course you can ask van Nedervelde how bothered he is that he is contributing to my forthcoming book which Elon Musk’s 150+ IQ electromechanical engineer father, Errol Musk explains:
Gary, You need to write a big hard-cover book on the history of the past 100 years and on how humans interacted” in this period and still do!
And a short while later, June 24, 2022, Errol Musk followed up:
Gary, you should definitely write a book because of your extensive true knowledge of the 20th century, even up to now. I’ve ‘read’ a book on the ‘Origins of Mankind’, written by a USA professor [Israeli Yuval Noah Harari], given to me for my birthday. that was lauded as “amazing”. What a load of crap. A matric pupil could have written it! It should be easy (but hard work). You just start from the beginning.
PVN, it is now 12:01 PM. No response yet from SC.
12:36 PM, @Philip van Nedervelde [PVN] responds:
I exposed your malice and nastiness the moment I spotted it.
Who or what traumatized you so much that you get off on wallowing in such unbecoming and unlovely behavior? Your behavior screams of unresolved trauma, but you evidently lack enough self-awareness and insight to know this and feel this about yourself.
I pity you. You are but a poor wounded soul acting out your pain, frustration, and anger at the world.
As to effing off, allow me to remind you that I unfriended you and that I am not the one who keeps trying to engage with me anew. I ask nothing better that you leave me alone and go and try trolling someone else.
I also remind you that if you really are endowed with such an allegedly superior intellect, then the least you could do is to consistently get your facts straight. For instance, I explained to you before that I am not Dutch and that I took that Cambridge exam without ever going to Cambridge. Your memory evidently shows noteworthy holes. Not so cognitively superior after all then. Or maybe you’re just getting old and cognitively impaired.
BTW, I did physically go to Cambridge University once. I was invited there by the uni in the late 90s or early 00s to give a presentation about molecular nanotechnology in my capacity, at that time, of Executive Director of the European arm of the Foresight Nanotechnology Institute. Not too shabby for an “intellectual midget” from Flanders, eh? 
12:45 PM GG:
“People with little intelligence have great difficulty feeling stupid” ~ MDG
All those 250 words in the last implosion of your brain, in an attempt to distance your mind from lacking the understanding of the money system.
Too funny.
Are you speaking with SC?
12:47 PM
GG:
Floundering Flander, what’s next, besides for the rest of the 83 reacting to the same message?
At 12:48 PM
PVN
Also, why on Earth would I help you by listing those who I believe know me best? If you’re going to properly troll me and “denounce” me, do your homework yourself. You may have a low opinion of my intellect, but your allegedly superior intellect clearly is lacking if you really thought I was that stupid.
You’re losing it, Gary. Getting ou, boetie.
I respond within a minute:
Title: On the back of the poor
Trump and Musk backing Bitcoin, is a solution to unite in a positive way, ignore inflation and the rest of the people.
This way the feud doesn’t look like it was a con from the start.
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Tag: Errol Graham Musk
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David Byrne
Oprah Winfrey
Leonardo DiCaprio
Cristiano Ronaldo
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Gutfeld!
Richard Gering
Bentzion Chanowitz aka Goy
Piers Morgan Uncensored
Barry Manilow
Lesley Stahl
Lionel Richie
Shakira
Samuel L. Jackson
Bob Dylan
Jared Leto
Joe Rogan
Jennifer Lopez
Taylor Swift
Erin Burnett OutFront
Linda Essakow Smulowitz
Jonathan Gevisser
Hedda Gevisser
Ira Rapp
Antony Unruh
Ayala Weisel – fraudulent guardian of Zena Gevisser
Crime Junkie Podcast
Cyndi Lauper
Deborah Sturman Esq.
Diane Levy
Fazila Farouk
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Steve Essakow
Israel Defense Forces
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Mariah Carey
Nadia Meer
Shneur Reti-Waks
Neal Barnard, MD
Neal H. Hurwitz & Associates
Neil Abramson
Trevor Abramson
Trevor Goldberg
Nick Sternberg
Paul Walker
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Robert F. Kennedy, Jr
Robert Reich
Tosca Musk
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The Daily Show
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This American Life
SmartLess
New Heights
@WarRoomPandemic
@benshapiro
@BenStiller
@errol_musk
@seanhannity
@ConanOBrien
@maddow
@GadSaad
@DavidSacks
@FINALLEVEL
@kendricklamar
@jordanbpeterson
@JonathanTurley
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12:49 PM
GG
“People with little intelligence have great difficulty feeling stupid!” – MDG
12:51 PM
GG
Again, Floundering Flanders, why devote all this time and attention to advancing my forthcoming book?
Hypocrite, intellectual midget deluxe, you never called it a nasty game when you were singing my praise.
12:52 PM
PVN
Have at it, boetie! Show me your worst. Do lavish all your time, effort, and attention on this minus habens… who you evidently deem worthy of it.
12:53 PM
GG
Why not admit it the sharing of Errol Musk’s profound nail on the head has your wiring going totally bonkers.
[PVN responds 
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]Again, Floundering Flanders, why devote all this time and attention to advancing my forthcoming book?
Hypocrite, intellectual midget deluxe, you never called it a nasty game when you were singing my praise.
At 12:54
PVN
This explains why you keep mentioning and insisting your allegedly superior intellect.
What do you see in the mirror, Gary?
Within a minute
GG
Don’t forget, SC is not backing you with his silence.
Don’t forget, SC is not backing you with his silence.
12:55 PM
GG
GG
I see great happiness when I look in the mirror; what about you?
12:56 PM
PVN
PVN
Ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect, ou?
Study that mirror, boetie.
12:57 PM
GG
Don’t you feel disappointment in yourself not being able to see God’s hand in everything including your lack of acknowledging you were fooled into thinking the money wasn’t price fixed?
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]12:58
PVN [replied to “I see great happiness when I look in the mirror; what about you?”
Ooo, the distortions and delusions are strong with this one!
Sad old scared white man. Pitiful.
1 PM
PVN
PVN
Thanks for all the comedic relief, boetie. You don’t intend to be, but you can be quite funny at times. Ridiculous too.
1 PM
GG
Floundering Flanders, get a grip, slow down.
You know you have lost the game of life.
Did you mention to your money backers that you are aware the money is price fixed by the people who back all sides to war?
You have a conflict of interest which isn’t mitigated by your ongoing denial.
1:01 PM
PVN
Slow down?! You ou you have trouble keeping up, bra?
1:02 PM
GG
Remember, I’m rebroadcasting our dialogue in real time.
I know it ends badly for you. The selfish return as shellfish.
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]1:02 PM
PVN
How about you mind your own business, ou chommie?
1:02 PM
GG
Speak with SC to begin with. How would you calm him down?
Again, Floundering Flanders, why devote all this time and attention to advancing my forthcoming book? Hypocrite, intellectual midget deluxe, you never called it a nasty game when you were singing my praise.
[PVN responds ]
]Would you like to see a photo of where I am right now, smiling, 1:05 PM California time high up one the mountains on this most perfect day for mountain bike riding and hiking?
Tell us what you did with the free money you were given.
1:07 PM
PVN
What on the good earth are you going on about? Are you aware of how incoherent your babbling is?
1:08 PM
GG
Also tell us what you know about the traitor German-South African Oppenheimers and why they wouldn’t bother with you?
1:08 PM
PVN [Incorrectly typed GG in the group chat]
You are spending time here with me now, pel. Mountain biking at the same time would be highly unadvisable and downright stupid of you.
1:09 PM
GG
Does it occur to you that if you sit too long and a fly bites you, its programming dates back prior to the start of the Big Bang 14 billion years ago?
5:17 PM
Johan
Qoud erat demonstradum…..
Again
5:18 PM
GG
@Johan Driesen, you are now writing up a storm, so I will delay uploading the rest of the dialogue that only gets more interesting for later.
If you deny me that opportunity, it will continue, along with your pitiful filibuster to be uploaded all over the Internet.
[Morph Retro left the group.]
5:20 PM
Johan
You may upload here whatever you want @Gary Gevisser! Let yourself go…
I will not delete anything, buddy
5:31 PM
GG
1:09 PM
PVN
Free money?? Given?? I’m getting really worried about you now, bra. You are seriously losing it. Time to call 911 and get yourself sectioned.
1:10 PM
PVN
Keep fishing, boet. Good luck with that.
1:11 PM
GG
Come on weak mind; can’t you do better than attempt to distract your weak mind that I’m texting and riding at the same time?
Again tell us how you have spent the free money?
1:12 PM
PVN
Do you know what dropping contextually irrelevant factoids like this reveals about your declining
1:12 PM
GG
When the money is price fixed it is free to those who price fix it. What don’t you understand? Should we go back to Errol Musk?
1:13 PM
GG
Hahahah money is your preoccupation.
1:13 PM
PVN
If you’re going to have any luck with your info-fishing expedition here, you’re going to have to throw in lots more bait, boet.
1:14 PM
GG
You know you can’t convince me that your wrong thinking is right.
You are only trying to hold on to what little of your mind you have left to work with.
1:15 PM
GG
Why are you so slow?
What is your weak mind thinking?
1:16 PM
GG
I thought you are using that free money to sell people on your intellect.
Go ahead.
Again, Floundering Flanders, why devote all this time and attention to advancing my forthcoming book?
Hypocrite, intellectual midget deluxe, you never called it a nasty game when you were singing my praise.
1:16 PM
PVN
What about good old Errol? Tell my ou chommie I said hi, ja? Sê vir hom ek sê hallo.
1:17 PM
GG
You must be bothered by pulling out your best “riding a mountain bike and texting is in advisable”?
1:17 PM
PVN Why would you think I care about convincing you of anything? Read the room, ou boet.
1:19 PM
GG
I never said you are trying to convince me.
You are only attempting to calm your increasingly weak mind that you can’t be so stupid.
Do you disagree that the money is price fixed?
1:20 PM
PVN SO bothered, bra. Jy’t wragtig geen idee nie
1:20 PM
GG
Floundering Flounders, changing the language shows you have lost the argument.
Do you disagree that the money is price fixed?
1:21 PM
PVN Why would you care about the opinion on this or any topic from this “intellectual midget”?
1:21 PM
GG
I care to expose you. You are bothered that you didn’t figure on your own that the money is price fixed.
1:22 PM
PVN
Whatever you say, old goat. And this concludes our comedy hour for today. I have better things to do. Cheers!
1:23 PM
GG
Weak mind Floundering Fidgety Flounders, I care to expose you, you demonstrate that you are bothered that you didn’t figure on your own that the money is price fixed.
1:24 PM
GG
Don’t answer
You said you have better things to do.
See if you can stick to your word.
1:28 PM
GG
Yes it is a deep sinking feeling knowing you have lost the game of life.
God is very unforgiving to the deceptive.
Heading back now to spend time with my gorgeous F-C (Française-Canadienne) wife Marie Dion who thought out “People with little intelligence have great difficulty feeling stupid”; and equally important my wife would agree you are the perfect example.
Remember, keep checking to see how quickly our mutual Facebook friends decline and who they are; knowing that if they don’t tell you to fuck off, they can’t be trusted to have your back.
1:38 PM
GG
All this time I have been working on putting the finishing touches to my “big hard-cover book”,, what have you been doing?
5:32 PM
GG
GG
It is now 5:31 PM PST, and PVN still hasn’t explained how he feels about the monies, including Bitcoin, all being price fixed.
5:34 PM
GG
GG
Modern day warfare cannot be fought without money, unless you are a member of the DAAC, and then your job is mostly to promote the monies and leave the operating of the border wars and civil unrest to your generals.
@Johan Driesen, can you tell us how the rest of your day is going.
I’m all ears, and I’m sure so is everyone else, including Mark Zuckerberg.
Also tells about your formal schooling.
Can you also stick to English, even though I know that changing to another language helps distract your mind from going totally nuts, but that is only very momentary, until you get caught.
@Johan Driesen, @Philip van Nedervelde will tell you that he has been fighting this battle inside his head, the very moment he got his head around Professor Edward Jay Epstein’s epic 1978 non-fiction book, The Diamond Invention.
@Johan Driesen, you had to have at least one cup of coffee and/or other drug to keep you from toppling over.
Did your best friend @Philip van Nedervelde tell you about The D I book, to prove to you that he is your best friend as well as why he remains hellbent on employing his insidious distractions to avoid confronting in his own mind the price fixing of the monies.
Moreover, once you begin going down that path to hell , failing to tell others, those you have misinformed inevitably become your enemy.
5:42 PM
GG
Does anyone want to talk about the almost unbelievable bad blood between Trump and Elon Musk? @Johan Driesen, are you ready to hear more about the war in Gaza as well as Russia-Ukraine war?
5:44 PM
Johan
No need! That was not why I wanted to give you this platform but you can carry on and talk about what you like to talk about
5:45 PM
GG
@Johan Driesen and @Philip van Nedervelde, given how I distrust the two of you as much as you distrust each other, I have a backup of this interaction; and I suggest the two of you and the others do the same.
@Philip van Nedervelde, of course you are checking carefully that I did an accurate reposting of our timeline starting yesterday.
Unless you say so, I will take it as accurate.
5:48 PM
GG
Added journalist @Vicky Ward who remains one of my 3688 fb friends.
5:53 PM
GG
“No need!”. Are you serious or delirious, @Johan Driesen?
At 3:46 PM, 2 hours and 5 odd minutes ago, you were all up in arms, “How about al the genocide these days committed by the Jews in Gaza???”
But you were, of course, faking your concern for the Palestinian Gazans, as does most of the world, in particular the Muslim Arabs such as MBS, Egypt, Syria, Morocco etc etc as well as non-Arab Iran.
5:57 PM
GG
But you are now morphing must quicker than an ugly, slow caterpillar into a beautiful, agile butterfly.
Much quicker, because we are talking seconds if not much less than a second.
The moment your eyes focused on @Johan Driesen, “No need!”.
5:58 PM
GG
Those of you equally in denial wished he would have stopped there, as that was bad enough.
But he had to go on, “That was not why I wanted to give you this platform …”
Then why the fuck @Johan Driesen did you bring up Gaza?
5:59 PM
GG
Let me now share with you the unbeatable “gift” of being born a “late talker”.
6:03 PM
GG
When I returned to South Africa, the country of my birth, in late December 1972, I still thought there was a good chance that I would become an IAF Fighter Pilot because I really had no interest in going to university to study bullshit economics-finance-accounting-law; and besides I was only 15, and had another 2 years of schooling to complete. A healthy teenager in their mid-teens has very short time horizons, especially since becoming a Fighter Pilot was in my blood.
Next to me on the grounds of South Africa’s number one Prep school, boarding school Highbury Preparatory School which my eldest brother Neil
was attending at the time, and which I later, 1967,
attended is my extraordinary and inspirational, and again highly secretive British-English mother Zena
whose client list not only included Mossad head Ben-Gurion, but President John F Kennedy, his younger brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy Esq., an inexplicably strong supporter of Israel even ahead of the outbreak of war on May 15, 1948, as well as the Kennedy’s nemesis, Aristotle Onassis who made sure that my mother Zena was the only woman in the room when he signed his prenuptial agreement with First Lady Jackie Kennedy Onassis on October 20, 1968, when “not a word was spoken” between Jackie O and my mother who Onassis assigned to “protect” Jackie O from the media.
Yes, Aristotle Onassis was not the only very rich person who worked for Mossad.
6:16 PM
GG
@Johan Driesen, besides for proof that you and @Philip van Nedervelde are disgusting idiots, hypocrites up the kazoo, what proof do you want that @Errol Graham Musk hit a bullseye when writing his praise of me?
6:19 PM
GG
Grab hold of your Internet search engine and/or favorite AI, and mine is Elon Musk’s Grok which needs no further refinement because we have now addressed to sufficiently large numbers of people that Bitcoin and all the other money laundering, 100% inflationary Cryptos are as big crap as all the crap that came out of Hitler and Goebbels’ mouths, other than their declaration, “The masses will more easily fall victim to a big lie, than a small lie.”
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]6:19 PM
Spicer
6:20 PM
GG
@Michael Spicer, go fuck yourself!
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t]6:21 PM
Spicer
Spicer
I was added. No idea why
6:25 PM
GG
A minute ago, 6:22 PM, I posted my 24 mutual fb friends with Michael Spicer on his fb messaging with the words, “I will now begin reaching out to our 24 mutual fb friends”:
Anastasia Barens 21 mutual friends
Anil Kumar 3 mutual friends
Art Sciencecosmos 22 mutual friends
Azzam Shammas 24 mutual friends
Carrie Radomski 17 mutual friends
Christoph Kollmann 21 mutual friends
David Judey Ostin 16 mutual friends
Dr. Mark R. Hatch 14 mutual friends
Edward Dowaliby 26 mutual friends
Gabor Kiss 110 mutual friends
Hana B Hanami 19 mutual friends
Iris Kelly Joseph 25 mutual friends
Lucas M T M 40 mutual friends
Maitreya One 52 mutual friends
Mkwawa Shujaa 30 mutual friends
Modesto Cordero 20 mutual friends
Morph Retro 25 mutual friends
Neal VanDeree 46 mutual friends
Olivier Denis 27 mutual friends
Ósìnákáchī Àkùmà Kálū 29 mutual friends
Pete Young 1 mutual friend
Roland Orre 36 mutual friends
Sergio Tarrero 50 mutual friends
Immediately after this last post, Johan Driesen removed me from the group.
